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Re: Google Drive could soon start locking your files

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I've been a Google Fi customer for 6 or 7 years now and what constantly scares the hell out of me is the subreddit where about every 3-6 months you see someone saying: "Google Fi did me wrong, so I reversed the charges on CC - now my entire Google account is locked / all photos / all files in drive" This seems... like it's going to get regulated soon. Just going to take blocking the wrong account some day and boom, h…

I left Fi because I was very concerned about something like this

Re: Google Drive could soon start locking your files

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I will never forget that the Christchurch shooting video was automatically deleted from users' PRIVATE Google Drive and Dropbox - no warnings were given and no explanation was presented.

Perhaps I'm sensitive as a NZer, but would you feel the same if the deleted document was a plan for a nuclear weapon etc? Though while giving a warning is clearly inappropriate, they should certainly have explained what they did.

Why would you delete historical footage ? No one would even think to destroy or censor the footage from Auschwitz

Re: Google Drive could soon start locking your files

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Has to be a rhetorical question. I was once responsible for ripping 250,000 CDs, legally, on behalf of various record labels, from tiny to the big 5. I would love to store a backup of all that data in the big cloud services and see which ones deleted my legally-owned data.

If you ripped those CDs while contracted by these record labels, I don’t see how it is legal for you to keep the files after the job and call them yours.

You assume that once the job was done, he washed his hands of it and it was over.

I once digitized a large media collection for a company (not audio, though), and it regularly used me as a backup source of last resort for when the files failed/got lost/needed to be transferred in bulk to another company/whatever on their end.

Re: Google Drive could soon start locking your files

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I will never forget that the Christchurch shooting video was automatically deleted from users' PRIVATE Google Drive and Dropbox - no warnings were given and no explanation was presented.

Perhaps I'm sensitive as a NZer, but would you feel the same if the deleted document was a plan for a nuclear weapon etc? Though while giving a warning is clearly inappropriate, they should certainly have explained what they did.

Yes, for US citizens the right to information is almost unlimited. Even plans for (nuclear) weapons is protected unless it’s stolen classified material, you intend to develop a nuclear weapon, or you intend to export that information.

Re: Google Drive could soon start locking your files

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I will never forget that the Christchurch shooting video was automatically deleted from users' PRIVATE Google Drive and Dropbox - no warnings were given and no explanation was presented.

I wonder if in the future we'll need a "unique-inize" app that will make trivial changes to pictures and videos that change their hash and their size by a few bytes to defeat this kind of nonsense. Changing even one pixel's hue on one frame by a small amount should make the whole thing encode (depending on codec) to a different size and hash.

As long as Google is willing to serve binaries, encryption solves this.

Re: Google Drive could soon start locking your files

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Has to be a rhetorical question. I was once responsible for ripping 250,000 CDs, legally, on behalf of various record labels, from tiny to the big 5. I would love to store a backup of all that data in the big cloud services and see which ones deleted my legally-owned data.

Now imagine having to deal with disposition of the data and the ownership of the NAS throughout a bankruptcy.

What I'm trying to find out is what happened to the 250,000 CDs. They were put in storage unit. What happened to the storage unit when the company was liquidated? Did anyone even remember the CDs were there? Did someone bid on the unpaid storage unit and come across the biggest cache of music ever seen?

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I will never forget that the Christchurch shooting video was automatically deleted from users' PRIVATE Google Drive and Dropbox - no warnings were given and no explanation was presented.

Perhaps I'm sensitive as a NZer, but would you feel the same if the deleted document was a plan for a nuclear weapon etc? Though while giving a warning is clearly inappropriate, they should certainly have explained what they did.

It is a very slippery slope. Would you feel the same if it was a genomic sequence of a novel respiratory virus? Would you say it is a plan for a bioweapon and hence must be forbidden?

Re: Google Drive could soon start locking your files

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I will never forget that the Christchurch shooting video was automatically deleted from users' PRIVATE Google Drive and Dropbox - no warnings were given and no explanation was presented.

Perhaps I'm sensitive as a NZer, but would you feel the same if the deleted document was a plan for a nuclear weapon etc? Though while giving a warning is clearly inappropriate, they should certainly have explained what they did.

Nuclear weapons aren't all that complicated, it's the enrichment that is hard. It's a large scale industrial process that requires a well equiped specialized facility. We can detect these activities from space, that's how big we are talking.

You can get a rough idea of what is needed from Wikipedia. They are simpler machines than a automobile engine, at least in the sense that there are fewer parts involved.

Re: Google Drive could soon start locking your files

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Perhaps I'm sensitive as a NZer, but would you feel the same if the deleted document was a plan for a nuclear weapon etc? Though while giving a warning is clearly inappropriate, they should certainly have explained what they did.

Yes, I would feel the same if the deleted document was a plan for a nuclear weapon. If it is not shared with anyone, why should a cloud provider get to decide what I can and can't store? I want to be able to use that storage as an extension of my local hard drives/SSD's with the ease of use of accessing it between different devices. I still consider it my data. That those bits and bytes happen to represent a document…

Because it's their ToS, their hard drives, their business. Doing it without at least a day prior notice seems to be a very big no-no, but it obviously did not matter to their bottom line. The general public does not care about these issues enough, because there are other issues in society that seem to be more important for the plurality. (Just to name one crazies shooting people.)
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