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TikTok streaming software is an illegal fork of OBS
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Re: TikTok streaming software is an illegal fork of OBS
#182It's concerning how many self-labelled software engineers on Twitter are chipping in with comments like "it's open source so it's fair game" or "they just need to add attribution".
Probably they are employed at companies who are themselves violating GPL and have seen this being done there.
How do you think companies end up violating GPL. Maybe sometimes it's a heartless executive, but a lot of enterprise software devs are completely unconcerned with licenses. If they can get their hands on it, the license doesn't matter.
Re: TikTok streaming software is an illegal fork of OBS
#183At this point, would it even hurt TikTok to open source their code? The network effect and user profiles are their moat, not their codebase.
If the app includes ByteDance's proprietary BVC1 or BVC2 encoders, it's possible those would have to be open-sourced.
Re: TikTok streaming software is an illegal fork of OBS
#184Earlier quoted context omitted.
Relavant Tweet: https://twitter.com/dodgepong/status/1471522226520346632
See also https://twitter.com/dodgepong/status/1471528656199692292 and https://twitter.com/dodgepong/status/1471524716477300737 too twitter; didn't read: there's apparently OBS code evident in the decompiled app, and other GPL code as well, and OBS found out independently and are working to resolve it
Also important to note: OBS developers also found incidents of OBS code outside of that instance, and they are working with TikTok on the same.
Re: TikTok streaming software is an illegal fork of OBS
#185Earlier quoted context omitted.
The attitude on (mostly American) HN is against licensing bodies, as far as I've seen in the past.
If you saw, or were exposed to, how many thousands of dollars and hundreds of hours it takes native professionals to get licensed to do hair braiding or cutting, you'd be disenfranchised, too.
Native professional like native-born American?
In my case I pay about 300 CAD a year to EGBC and have not heard from my colleagues that getting a P.Eng in BC is a significant time-sink. You have to have 4 years of work experience, get your work certified, and then do a couple exams. I would believe dozens of hours, but not hundreds.
Re: TikTok streaming software is an illegal fork of OBS
#186Earlier quoted context omitted.
Not at all true. It's copyright infringement if you're not following a license contract, of which the GPL is.
The GPL contract only says you have to distribute source to the users you give binaries to. The only people who can ask for said source are the people receiving those binaries and the only people who have standing to sue when that doesn’t happen is the copyright owners. That’s why you can use GPL software in your private CI system and not need to give anyone the source code.
I see I misread your comment. My apologies.
Re: TikTok streaming software is an illegal fork of OBS
#187It's concerning how many self-labelled software engineers on Twitter are chipping in with comments like "it's open source so it's fair game" or "they just need to add attribution".
There are subtleties not captured by this quick overview which are not fully understood by (in my experience) the vast majority of programmers:
https://choosealicense.com/licenses/
If your project is going to be "real" (e.g., not some personal throwaway), you really need a lawyer if you are including anything other than MIT. Even Apache can be problematic when it comes to patenting.
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#188Earlier quoted context omitted.
> talent counts more than a degree Are you saying for MD or PE that talent doesn't matter? Anybody can say they are a software engineer. The title means nothing.
Yes. A degree matters much more than talent. If you can get a degree you can practice. The most talented person in the world with no degree can't. Some people go to places where their low talent but high cash flow allows them to get a license.
Okay, so for an MD a degree is necessary that's true. But an MD with a degree and no talent probably won't be an MD for long.
MD at least means something. "Software engineer" means nothing.
Re: TikTok streaming software is an illegal fork of OBS
#189How do we make sure people invoking China-stealing-intellectual-property-yet-again don’t pile on this thread? If this is a case of a company wrongfully using IP we need to very much have a discussion about that topic alone.
Re: TikTok streaming software is an illegal fork of OBS
#190Earlier quoted context omitted.
In many jurisidictions "Engineer" is a licensed and regulated title, and their professional organizations have tried to regulate it, but lost the war. We know have actual engineering programs that focus on software and 6-week bootcamps graduating people who claim to be "Software Engineers", so add it to the list of appropriated words right next to "Geek".
Right, "geek" should go back to the original definition: a person who bites the head off of a chicken in a carnival show.
And he is a foole, a sotte, and a geke also,
Which choseth a place vnto the same to go,
And where diuers wayes lead thither directly
He choseth the worst and most of ieopardie