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How to self-educate if you lack a formal design education

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Re: How to self-educate if you lack a formal design education

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The "Non Designer's Design Book" is pretty good. It was suggested to me on this forum some time ago, and I got a lot out of it, even though it's still a struggle to really internalize it

https://www.amazon.com/dp/0321534042/ref=as_li_ss_til?tag=de...;

(And, yes, I have an affiliate link there. That's why I got a high karma score here, so I could start raking in the millions with affiliate links to books...)

Re: How to self-educate if you lack a formal design education

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I've been taking a different approach. I started poring over books on people like Dieter Rams, reading about other design oriented fields like fashion,advertising (Ogilvy's book is amazing) architecture, etc. It's been hugely helpful and just fun in it's own right.

Re: How to self-educate if you lack a formal design education

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post #3

I've been taking a different approach. I started poring over books on people like Dieter Rams, reading about other design oriented fields like fashion,advertising (Ogilvy's book is amazing) architecture, etc. It's been hugely helpful and just fun in it's own right.

Which one of Ogilvy's books you meant (or recommend): Confessions of an Advertising Man (2004) or Ogilvy on Advertising (1985)?

Re: How to self-educate if you lack a formal design education

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post #2

The "Non Designer's Design Book" is pretty good. It was suggested to me on this forum some time ago, and I got a lot out of it, even though it's still a struggle to really internalize it https://www.amazon.com/dp/0321534042/ref=as_li_ss_til?tag=de... ; (And, yes, I have an affiliate link there. That's why I got a high karma score here, so I could start raking in the millions with affiliate links to books...)

Agreed, The Non Designer's Design Book has been the most helpful for me. When you've learned the basics of UX design, you can probably improve your overall UX design best by learning the basic skills of visual design.

Re: How to self-educate if you lack a formal design education

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post #3

I've been taking a different approach. I started poring over books on people like Dieter Rams, reading about other design oriented fields like fashion,advertising (Ogilvy's book is amazing) architecture, etc. It's been hugely helpful and just fun in it's own right.

Which one of Ogilvy's books you meant (or recommend): Confessions of an Advertising Man (2004) or Ogilvy on Advertising (1985)?

"Ogilvy on Advertising" is his most famous book

Re: How to self-educate if you lack a formal design education

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That article misses the bulk of what good design is actually about. To quote Steve Jobs:

"Most people make the mistake of thinking design is what it looks like. People think it's this veneer -- that the designers are handed this box and told, 'Make it look good!' That's not what we think design is. It's not just what it looks like and feels like. Design is how it works."

If you want to learn about design, before reading books about colors, fonts, grid layouts or how to make an inner glow in Photoshop, you should start by reading something like Don Norman's "The Design of Everyday Things" to gain an appreciation for how things work, and why. Then worry about making them look good.

Re: How to self-educate if you lack a formal design education

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which one of Ogilvy's books you meant (or recommend): Confessions of an Advertising Man (2004) or Ogilvy on Advertising (1985)?

"Ogilvy on Advertising" is his most famous book

Thanks, that was what I ordered. And it seems Confessions is actually from 60s, just the print sold in Amazon was from 2004.

Re: How to self-educate if you lack a formal design education

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That article misses the bulk of what good design is actually about. To quote Steve Jobs: "Most people make the mistake of thinking design is what it looks like. People think it's this veneer -- that the designers are handed this box and told, 'Make it look good!' That's not what we think design is. It's not just what it looks like and feels like. Design is how it works." If you want to learn about design, before read…

It depends on what type of design you're talking about. Some design disciplines are "make it look good" and some are "make it work good" or "make it read good". Design is too broad a word to use in this context.

Re: How to self-educate if you lack a formal design education

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That article misses the bulk of what good design is actually about. To quote Steve Jobs: "Most people make the mistake of thinking design is what it looks like. People think it's this veneer -- that the designers are handed this box and told, 'Make it look good!' That's not what we think design is. It's not just what it looks like and feels like. Design is how it works." If you want to learn about design, before read…

I would also add Don't Make Me Think (by Steve Krug) to that list.
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