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Re: TikTok streaming software is an illegal fork of OBS

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Post by zymhan » Fri, Dec 17, 2021, 4:52 PM UTC

jazzyjackson wrote: post #90

galgalesh wrote: post #65

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From the HN guidelines: > Please don't complain about tangential annoyances—things like article or website formats, name collisions, or back-button breakage. They're too common to be interesting.

I think the complaint is more about twitter being an unreliable trash news source akin to the daily mirror, rather than pedestrian complaints of how the format is annoying

If the link is "trash", it won't get many upvotes. That's the premise of HN.

Twitter threads can be insightful an informative.

Re: TikTok streaming software is an illegal fork of OBS

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Post by ipaddr » Fri, Dec 17, 2021, 4:52 PM UTC

criddell wrote: post #108

oliwarner wrote: post #70

It's concerning how many self-labelled software engineers on Twitter are chipping in with comments like "it's open source so it's fair game" or "they just need to add attribution".

It might not be like this everywhere, but in the US all software engineers are self-labelled. It's not like medical doctor (MD) or professional engineer (PE) where the title actually implies some license to practice.

Engineer is a legal term in some place where a degree is required in engineering.

The term developer doesn't require a license neither does CEO or board member or president of the US.

Re: TikTok streaming software is an illegal fork of OBS

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Post by criddell » Fri, Dec 17, 2021, 4:52 PM UTC

pphysch wrote: post #155

criddell wrote: post #117

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ByteDance is partially controlled by the government so I don't think your Google analogy is a good one. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-08-17/beijing-t... https://qz.com/1788836/targeting-tiktoks-privacy-alone-misse...

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Yes, I honestly think Washington doesn't exercise similar influence over Google or other American companies.

CNN likes to pop up a PIP view of what's being broadcast in China when they talk about things that embarrass the Chinese government. When they start talking about Peng Shuai it takes about two seconds before the Chinese broadcast becomes a test pattern.

When's the last time you saw a test pattern when watching a foreign news channel?

Re: TikTok streaming software is an illegal fork of OBS

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Post by bdcravens » Fri, Dec 17, 2021, 4:53 PM UTC

galgalesh wrote: post #65

andrew_ wrote: post #38

I'd like to see HN shy away from posting twitter threads as news. There's almost always a hard link to the source material, and twitter threads are filled with emotional, truncated, nuance-lacking, trite clips that more often than not do little to promote healthy discussion of a topic. The goal of quality here really is noble.

From the HN guidelines: > Please don't complain about tangential annoyances—things like article or website formats, name collisions, or back-button breakage. They're too common to be interesting.

Also in the guidelines

> Please submit the original source. If a post reports on something found on another site, submit the latter.

Re: TikTok streaming software is an illegal fork of OBS

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Post by pphysch » Fri, Dec 17, 2021, 4:54 PM UTC

criddell wrote: post #163

pphysch wrote: post #155

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Yes, I honestly think Washington doesn't exercise similar influence over Google or other American companies. CNN likes to pop up a PIP view of what's being broadcast in China when they talk about things that embarrass the Chinese government. When they start talking about Peng Shuai it takes about two seconds before the Chinese broadcast becomes a test pattern. When's the last time you saw a test pattern when watching…

If you want to uncritically believe everything US establishment media says about enemies of the US establishment, that is your problem.

Re: TikTok streaming software is an illegal fork of OBS

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Post by [deleted] » Fri, Dec 17, 2021, 4:54 PM UTC

criddell wrote: post #108

oliwarner wrote: post #70

It's concerning how many self-labelled software engineers on Twitter are chipping in with comments like "it's open source so it's fair game" or "they just need to add attribution".

It might not be like this everywhere, but in the US all software engineers are self-labelled. It's not like medical doctor (MD) or professional engineer (PE) where the title actually implies some license to practice.

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Re: TikTok streaming software is an illegal fork of OBS

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Post by tata71 » Fri, Dec 17, 2021, 4:55 PM UTC

hhh wrote: post #130

PragmaticPulp wrote: post #114

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Common misconception, but Software Engineer is actually a licensed profession in many states (with vague industry exemptions): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_engineering_professio... But virtually nobody does it. The NCEES even abandoned their Software Engineer licensing exam a few years ago because nobody was taking it.

Lightly glancing it seems like there are hard requirements for a college education for some of these. That’s a hard-stop for many (including myself.)

Even if you had a degree, working in this field should teach you it's not a requirement.

Re: TikTok streaming software is an illegal fork of OBS

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Post by criddell » Fri, Dec 17, 2021, 4:55 PM UTC

mmcgaha wrote: post #159

criddell wrote: post #108

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It might not be like this everywhere, but in the US all software engineers are self-labelled. It's not like medical doctor (MD) or professional engineer (PE) where the title actually implies some license to practice.

It has been many years since After The Gold Rush was published and we are no closer today than we were then. At some point software engineering will be a real profession but I doubt anyone will take action before some huge catastrophe pushes the issue.

I think you are right and it's too bad. There are some fields that should have it.

For example, the software for self-driving cars should be signed off by a licensed engineer before it is allowed to go live. Many mechanical and electrical parts of the car have been designed by licensed professionals, why not the software?

Re: TikTok streaming software is an illegal fork of OBS

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Post by ipaddr » Fri, Dec 17, 2021, 4:56 PM UTC

criddell wrote: post #151

G3rn0ti wrote: post #144

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Well, yes, this applies to engineering. But not to software engineering. Personally, I like „software engineering“ as it is — being a free profession where talent counts more than a degree.

> talent counts more than a degree Are you saying for MD or PE that talent doesn't matter? Anybody can say they are a software engineer. The title means nothing.

Yes. A degree matters much more than talent. If you can get a degree you can practice. The most talented person in the world with no degree can't.

Some people go to places where their low talent but high cash flow allows them to get a license.

Re: TikTok streaming software is an illegal fork of OBS

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Post by tata71 » Fri, Dec 17, 2021, 4:57 PM UTC

lainga wrote: post #142

skeeter2020 wrote: post #140

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In many jurisidictions "Engineer" is a licensed and regulated title, and their professional organizations have tried to regulate it, but lost the war. We know have actual engineering programs that focus on software and 6-week bootcamps graduating people who claim to be "Software Engineers", so add it to the list of appropriated words right next to "Geek".

The attitude on (mostly American) HN is against licensing bodies, as far as I've seen in the past.

If you saw, or were exposed to, how many thousands of dollars and hundreds of hours it takes native professionals to get licensed to do hair braiding or cutting, you'd be disenfranchised, too.