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#2I would really appreciate a "news" site that just cited verifiable facts and maybe showed data trends but didn't try to make any conclusions for me
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#3> One of the things that COVID has taught me is that the concept of a “story” in the news media is a relic that needs to be completely re-thought. It is not suited to the challenges of media communication today.
> Specifically, there are challenging and complex public-policy questions which require robust engagement from an informed electorate.
The problem is that the media is not intended to inform the electorate, nor to communicate truth. The sole job of the media is to win eyeballs, so that those eyeballs can be shown ads.
The profit motive is what these entities exist, and the profit motive pushes them toward actions that are harmful to society as a whole. Fear and anger drives engagement, and engagement drives profit. Clam reason and subtle nuance do not drive engagement, and therefore have no place in today's media.
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#4I would really appreciate a "news" site that just cited verifiable facts and maybe showed data trends but didn't try to make any conclusions for me
Here’s a good media bias chart:
https://adfontesmedia.com/static-mbc/?utm_source=HomePage_St...
Try choosing sources near the top middle, eg the Associated Press, Reuters, etc.
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#5Reminder that The New York Times eliminated their public editor, a role meant to enforce journalistic standards. An ombudsman of sorts. https://www.vox.com/2017/5/31/15719278/public-editor-liz-spa...
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#6I would really appreciate a "news" site that just cited verifiable facts and maybe showed data trends but didn't try to make any conclusions for me
That seems like a nice idea, but still very exploitable - it’s easy to control people’s conclusions by limiting which verifiable facts you publish.
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#7Nothing new here. I spent a few years working in war zones. I made friends with journalists. They were all (even the "good" ones that I became friends with) full of crap. Even if they wanted to tell the truth they couldn't, because they didn't understand the subject matter well enough.
Edit to refine my point due to presumed misunderstanding: At the end of the day it's about dollars. News is there to sell, not to explain truths.
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#8At this point literally everything has been wrong. Facts are confidently stated and they turn out to be opposite, then reverse again. Followed by more totally confident assertions. Maybe there is a story here, and it is our hubris. This is beyond us.
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#9> One of the things that COVID has taught me is that the concept of a “story” in the news media is a relic that needs to be completely re-thought. It is not suited to the challenges of media communication today. > Specifically, there are challenging and complex public-policy questions which require robust engagement from an informed electorate. The problem is that the media is not intended to inform the electorate, n…
Is an informed electorate by definition a group of people who sat through a series of free college level lecture taught by an expert virologist? Even then, I found an error or two because I did exhaustive surface level fact checking.
Or is it about the public being informed of accurate surface level facts and big picture views?
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#10I would really appreciate a "news" site that just cited verifiable facts and maybe showed data trends but didn't try to make any conclusions for me
Here’s a good media bias chart: https://adfontesmedia.com/static-mbc/?utm_source=HomePage_St... Try choosing sources near the top middle, eg the Associated Press, Reuters, etc.
The ones in the middle are the most nefarious in my experience. Precisely because they purport to be “the objective standard” and quite simply are entertainment just like everyone else.
Even the reliability of AP has completely evaporated for me. Not just influence from money, but also from intelligence agencies that make journalists feel important.