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If TV Companies Released Authorized Torrents With Ads, Would You Download Them?

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Re: If TV Companies Released Authorized Torrents With Ads, Would You Download Them?

#93
Oh, how I hate this "ads will pay for everything" attitude. I'd pay for content with an option to get it via torrent. Torrent is mostly a convenience to me not a way to get something for free. Especially when something is not even available by official channels, for money or not.

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#94

I would definitely do that. I'd be highly attracted and would use it instead of pirate trackers because there wouldn't be any potential negative legal ramifications. I can't stand the streaming experience provided by most vendors; I find Flash the most detestable component thereof, but I also strongly dislike being forced to redownload data if I want to watch again or even make significant seeks. I don't necessarily…

This is what I don't understand about cable TV (as I've used it in the UK, Australia and the Netherlands anyway; not sure about the US model). It's rammed full of adverts, yet we're already paying a subscription for the service. I'm sure there is a simple explanation for this, but what gives?

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#96

The giant elephant in the room is being overlooked: Advertisements have a lifespan measured in months, weeks, or days. Television content can stay relevant for decades. Imagine it's the year 1997. Aliens from the planet GNU have gone back in time and provided us with bittorrent, and technology making dial-up modems a million times faster (but they still drop their connection if your mom picks up the phone). You just…

Then there's the other elephant; No one wants to watch traditional advertising anymore. We've seen the alternative (pay per view, dvr skipping, and pirated content) and we like it too much.

Be creative.

Re: If TV Companies Released Authorized Torrents With Ads, Would You Download Them?

#97
I think something like this may be good as a supplement to an online streaming service. Since the users who will take advantage of such a thing will generally be more advanced than the average viewer, I think this would best fit as a premium service (perhaps strip the advertising). Pay a certain amount each month and you can download the episode for later viewing.

This is the kind of stuff broadcasters should start experimenting with now. Stop looking for a permanent solution and try things out. Why do you think fast food chains have test markets for new products?

Re: If TV Companies Released Authorized Torrents With Ads, Would You Download Them?

#98

I'm pretty sure that there's no way to do this without effectively just releasing pristine copies that somebody will cut the ads out of within 5 minutes of them being posted. They could use their own DRM'd file format and media player, but that would be broken in a week and have the effect of just releasing copies that somebody would cut the ads out of within 5 minutes of them beng posted. I can't think of any scheme…

"I'm pretty sure that there's no way to do this without effectively just releasing pristine copies that somebody will cut the ads out of within 5 minutes of them being posted."

The scene will probably just ignore the bittorrent copies. Over-the-air digital is already a pristine copy at a much higher bitrate so would be the preferred source.

Re: If TV Companies Released Authorized Torrents With Ads, Would You Download Them?

#99

The giant elephant in the room is being overlooked: Advertisements have a lifespan measured in months, weeks, or days. Television content can stay relevant for decades. Imagine it's the year 1997. Aliens from the planet GNU have gone back in time and provided us with bittorrent, and technology making dial-up modems a million times faster (but they still drop their connection if your mom picks up the phone). You just…

Solution - create new cuts of the torrents with updated ads every month.

Provide fast(ish) servers, so the new torrents will download faster.

Remove all links to the old torrents.

Re: If TV Companies Released Authorized Torrents With Ads, Would You Download Them?

#100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Orrrr, even better, the container they send the show in dynamically changes the ads based on what advertisers are trying to sell.

That would also make it drastically easier for the playing software to skip them entirely though.

Having two versions that only differ in the ads would also make it very easy to take only the common (non-ad) content and throw away the rest.

Considering that there is DRM software, and that it's largely accepted for at least some content (PC games), it's a wonder that there's no digital format where a DRM software plays the content you downloaded after playing some relevant ads to you. (Kind of like crunchyroll, or youtube, but with bittorrent distribution like vuze).

Saying that, if vuze or bittorrent.com implemented that scheme, would there be enough of of an indie films community that would supply the first round of content to such an app? And - would people prefer this to youtube or crunchyroll if they can get the same content without installing a bittorrent program?

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