Anyone who knows with any sophistication how economics works isn’t telling: they’re pocketing the difference working at RenTec or Jump or whatever. A child knows that privatizing profits and socializing losses is only good for rich people, but a Nobel laureate can’t prove it. So what we get is a bunch of “those who can’t, teach” social science economics. Greenspan in front of Congress talking about “flaws in conceptu…
HN might be such a place even if most people here agree with you. My snarky comment critical of trickle-down[1] has been flagged and hidden when it reaches a score of 66; and the admins have threatened me with a ban. I don't mind this strict adherence to the "be kind, don't be snarky" rule, but I haven't seen it so vigilantly enforced on fumigation from fiscal conservatives, which I routinely see here. I feel like it…
20 year study of global wealth demolishes the myth of ‘trickle-down’
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Re: 20 year study of global wealth demolishes the myth of ‘trickle-down’
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The combination of lower birth rates, not having a socialized retirement system and not having any significant estate tax seems tailor-made to build up an aristocracy over just a few generations. 1. Because birth rates are lower, being directly supported by one's children/grandchildren is no longer feasible. 2. No socialized retirement system. As a result, each individual must accumulate a small fortune in order to r…
IMO, you’ll never get a social retirement system funded to pay for a median household replacement income in retirement. The average social security payout for recipients is around $1500/mo. The max is around $3100/mo. Median household income in my state is ~$6800/mo. You would need to double social security to pay every 2 average recipient household 88% of the median income. You would need to quadruple it to pay a si…
Nope, the max is around $4200 (or, will be in a few weeks). And that's per person. A couple could receive as much as $8400/month.
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> as of 2016, 7.5% of kids born in the bottom quintile make it to the top quintile, so it is indeed possible, though quite rare. [1] Is 7.5% “quite rare”? That’s around (and between) the portion of the population who is left handed and the portion of the US population that has naturally blond hair, neither of which would I describe as “quite rare”.
The parent described the "top 10%" (chosen arbitrarily, I'm sure), and the only stats I could find described quintiles. 7.5% of the bottom 20% make it to the top 20%. In a perfectly fair and equitable society, you'd expect it to be 20%. I wouldn't call this "quite rare," though I would call this uncommon. But what percentage of the bottom 10% do you think make it to the top 10%? It's probably even fewer. And to go st…
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What you are saying is correct in the dimension of income but not in the dimension of power. The power of those with more wealth is steadily increasing, and the power of those without wealth is steadily decreasing. To many it seems like the game is rigged and no amount of effort is going to be able to give them a say in what direction our society heads in.
Even if there is no amount of effort that will prevent your power from decreasing, more effort still gives you more power.