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TikTok streaming software is an illegal fork of OBS

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Re: TikTok streaming software is an illegal fork of OBS

#31

So people that have ripped off OBS so far and violated GPL include TikTok, StreamLabs (Logitech), and StreamElements. Any other people I missed?

How did StreamLabs violate the GPL?

The OBS project has accused StreamLabs of copying their name and stealing their trademark (By naming their software StreamLabs OBS). I'm not sure about any source code thievery.

Re: TikTok streaming software is an illegal fork of OBS

#32

People are misunderstanding this and claiming it's not problematic. Ben Torrell (an OBS developer) notes later in the thread that there is indeed GPL code compiled into TikTok's executables; since source is not available and they have not got another license, it is unlicensed and hence illegal.

Relavant Tweet: https://twitter.com/dodgepong/status/1471522226520346632

See also https://twitter.com/dodgepong/status/1471528656199692292 and https://twitter.com/dodgepong/status/1471524716477300737

too twitter; didn't read: there's apparently OBS code evident in the decompiled app, and other GPL code as well, and OBS found out independently and are working to resolve it

Re: TikTok streaming software is an illegal fork of OBS

#34
In almost all cases, TikTok's offering would be considered a derived work because you cannot swap out the OBS part for another and still have it work. So they are likely in full violation unless they agree to open source all their code.

Seems like a pretty open and shut case to be honest - that is, if they intend to pursue legal action and the powers that be rule appropriately.

Re: TikTok streaming software is an illegal fork of OBS

#35
post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hopefully this is high profile enough to incur some consequences. GPL is ironclad on paper, but the sad reality is unscrupulous/international companies can and do just copy code directly off github into their products with no repercussions

And now they can also claim it was just autocompleted by Copilot.

That's not plausible

Re: TikTok streaming software is an illegal fork of OBS

#37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And now they can also claim it was just autocompleted by Copilot.

That's not plausible

Hey, just because it would get laughed out of court, that doesn't mean they can't claim it!

Re: TikTok streaming software is an illegal fork of OBS

#38
I'd like to see HN shy away from posting twitter threads as news. There's almost always a hard link to the source material, and twitter threads are filled with emotional, truncated, nuance-lacking, trite clips that more often than not do little to promote healthy discussion of a topic. The goal of quality here really is noble.

Re: TikTok streaming software is an illegal fork of OBS

#40

The commitment[1] appears to say, in summary, "you can violate the license anytime, and as long as you stop violating soon after we tell you to, there can be no financial penalties". That makes the GPL substantially weaker, since now a company can use GPL code in any place they think nobody will look. They will never be on the hook for court ordered damages going back years for unlicensed use. [1]: https://github.com…

I'm not a fan of the GPLv3 limiting the available response to copyright violations. Time limits in particular. It's one of the less clear parts of the license IMHO, and it affects the primary means of enforcement. Fortunately a lot of GPLv3 code is actually 3+ so maybe if a version 4 ever comes along this nonsensical restriction on enforcement will be more limited. I do understand the reasons around accidental misuse…

I'm not personally a fan of protecting against accidental misuse. No other law offers significant leniency for ignorance that I am aware of.
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