Refugees lack Covid shots because drugmakers fear lawsuits, documents show

Post by jimmyearlcarter » Fri, Dec 17, 2021, 8:01 AM UTC

roenxi wrote: post #14

sonicggg wrote: post #11

I see a lot of complaints of people about the fact that Pfizer required legal immunity against side effects. This is a must for any vaccine manufacturer, otherwise the vaccine is just not commercially feasible. That's what killed Lymerix, and why we don't have Lyme disease vaccine anymore. If the government does not back it up, the manufacturer won't stand a chance. Even if the vaccine has a good safety profile, a 0.…

That is a signal your laws are bad and squelching valuable innovation. Giving random one-off exceptions when you personally feel like it is a terrible way to regulate commerce. Vendors should be able to grade their vaccines on a curve based on how much safety and efficacy data there is, then let people choose whatever in consultation with their doctors.

Post by evandijk70 » Fri, Dec 17, 2021, 8:05 AM UTC

sonicggg wrote: post #11

I see a lot of complaints of people about the fact that Pfizer required legal immunity against side effects. This is a must for any vaccine manufacturer, otherwise the vaccine is just not commercially feasible. That's what killed Lymerix, and why we don't have Lyme disease vaccine anymore. If the government does not back it up, the manufacturer won't stand a chance. Even if the vaccine has a good safety profile, a 0.…

Post by gretch » Fri, Dec 17, 2021, 8:05 AM UTC

roenxi wrote: post #15

fer wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They don't waive more than what was defined in the PREP Act[0], they're exempt because it's an emergency and all evidence points at the treatment being better than the disease, and its production, distribution and administration is under government request. This was enacted in 2005, shortly after the original SARS, partially because pharma companies were reluctant to mass produce any novel vaccine/drug under governme…

> they're exempt because it's an emergency and all evidence points at the treatment being better than the disease I know you don't write the law, so these questions are more in the vein of statements with questionmarks: * Why only consider evidence of cost vs. benefit in an emergency? * Why are vaccines suddenly safe in an emergency and not at other times? This pandemic proved that we can produce a "safe and effectiv…

Post by pas » Fri, Dec 17, 2021, 8:10 AM UTC

waihtis wrote: post #24

sonicggg wrote: post #11

I see a lot of complaints of people about the fact that Pfizer required legal immunity against side effects. This is a must for any vaccine manufacturer, otherwise the vaccine is just not commercially feasible. That's what killed Lymerix, and why we don't have Lyme disease vaccine anymore. If the government does not back it up, the manufacturer won't stand a chance. Even if the vaccine has a good safety profile, a 0.…

Fine, but now we have two extra phenomena with the COVID vaccine: 1) Discussion about vaccine side effects, efficacy rates, etc. is being actively censored (e.g. Twitter's ridiculous post censorship policy) 2) Governments pushing for a mandatory vaccine If one doesn't think this creates a very dangerous precedent one does not understand history nor human nature at all.

Post by fer » Fri, Dec 17, 2021, 8:13 AM UTC

landemva wrote: post #26

fer wrote: post #20

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> I had it and have Dr. letter that says so. I now have sterilizing immunity. No, you don't, nobody has, 'sterilizing immunity' doesn't exist as you seem to think it does [0]. I seriously doubt a doctor would write 'sterilizing immunity' in such a letter, so I assume that's your reasoning. > so it is not better for me nor my family. It actually is [1]. Even if you had it, you're still better off having the jab. > I a…

I have talked to my Dr. 'you're still better off having the jab.' You are not my Dr. Supposedly vaccine reporting of harm is about 1%, though it would seem to be difficult to verify if it is 1% or 3%. 52 dead infants have been reported. https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/baby-of-fully-vaccinated-m... It is not better, and not for 'all'.