The insane tech job market of 2021 in Ukraine

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Post by gregdoesit » Thu, Dec 16, 2021, 8:28 PM UTC

The insane tech job market of 2021 in Ukraine
djinni.substack.com

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Post by magneticnorth » Thu, Dec 16, 2021, 10:11 PM UTC

The salary numbers are by month but I couldn't find clarification for the currency meant by "$". Are tech salaries in the Ukraine typically reported in USD?

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Post by kofejnik » Thu, Dec 16, 2021, 10:16 PM UTC

magneticnorth wrote: post #2

The salary numbers are by month but I couldn't find clarification for the currency meant by "$". Are tech salaries in the Ukraine typically reported in USD?

Yes

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Post by temp » Thu, Dec 16, 2021, 10:25 PM UTC

Are those net or gross?

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Post by killingtime74 » Thu, Dec 16, 2021, 10:50 PM UTC

Even now the 3.5k monthly is probably Less than SV engineers pay in tax

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Post by samspenc » Thu, Dec 16, 2021, 11:07 PM UTC

killingtime74 wrote: post #5

Even now the 3.5k monthly is probably Less than SV engineers pay in tax

Per this caveat in the description of the salary chart: "Excludes candidates with less than two years of experience and/or poor English skills."

My guess is that this data set is skewed towards the most highly paid engineers who speak English and have some work experience, so my guess is true average / median is closer to $2000.

EDIT: missed the next paragraph where they actually add more details on this demographic: "The average salary for junior hire was $770 this year, almost the same as before the pandemic."

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Post by bob667 » Thu, Dec 16, 2021, 11:16 PM UTC

magneticnorth wrote: post #2

The salary numbers are by month but I couldn't find clarification for the currency meant by "$". Are tech salaries in the Ukraine typically reported in USD?

There is nothing on that page that says the figures are per month

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Post by vecinu » Thu, Dec 16, 2021, 11:39 PM UTC

killingtime74 wrote: post #5

Even now the 3.5k monthly is probably Less than SV engineers pay in tax

SV engineers pay close to that for a 1 bedroom apartment. You'll have a higher quality of life in Ukraine with $3.7k than you would with $7.4k (after tax) in SV.

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Post by anm89 » Fri, Dec 17, 2021, 1:06 AM UTC

magneticnorth wrote: post #2

The salary numbers are by month but I couldn't find clarification for the currency meant by "$". Are tech salaries in the Ukraine typically reported in USD?

I was going to say, i know salries can be low in Ukraine but $770 a year is beyond the pale.

It should be labeled more clearly rhat these are monthly

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Post by legerdemain » Fri, Dec 17, 2021, 2:12 AM UTC

Not sure I'd want to build a career in a country about to be violently partitioned by world powers. Low cost of living is one thing, tanks and rocket launchers in the streets are another. Best of luck to Ukrainian devs in relocating to more expensive, but less perilous countries!