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Chess.com vs. Lichess

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Re: Chess.com vs. Lichess

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Post by dubeye »

jeremyjh wrote: post #101
kriops wrote: post #88

I think lichess.org is far superior in that it has a super-polished UX in ways that are not immediately obvious. After I made the switch from chess.com in 2014 (I had the paid features), it was always extremely annoying to come back. Also lichess.org gives you most of what chess.com tries to upsell you on, for free. As it happens I've re-validated this over the last few days with dozens of games on chess.com. A singl…

Yeah I was surprised at that. I think the arrows on chess.com are one of its biggest shortcomings. They are completely opaque and cover a lot of the board.

It's subjective. The arrows and circles on lichess really bug me. I much prefer chess arrows.

Re: Chess.com vs. Lichess

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Post by GhettoComputers »

apetresc wrote: post #173
GhettoComputers wrote: post #99

I would love to see XiangQi on Lichess or a suggestion for a good one. I suck at Chinese chess, but after learning it I was demolishing my friends from the headspace it gave me, the complexity really seemed to help me be a better chess player. I feel like I was an amateur "take as many pieces as you can and overwhelm the king" before and Chinese Chess turned me into a "sacrifice your pieces to position yourself bette…

You're in luck! https://www.pychess.org/ is exactly what you want; it took the Lichess source code but adapted it to a bunch of chess variants, including Xiang'qi.

Thank you I’ll try it!

Re: Chess.com vs. Lichess

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Post by GhettoComputers »

S4M wrote: post #143
GhettoComputers wrote: post #113

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Yeah I get murdered there. I should learn to get better I am always beaten by computers too.

I just went on playok to play couple of games of xiang qi and... I also got murdered...

Those guys are too good. Did you ever win? Know what I mean by you lost in the first few moves?

Re: Chess.com vs. Lichess

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Post by createunderrate »

I haven't seen much mention of the fact that Chess.com looks good, and Lichess looks bad. The graphics are prettier on Chess.com, and the sounds are better. Fortunately, this should be a very easy problem for Lichess to fix. Lichess just needs a bit more game juice, and it will feel as good as Chess.com.

Re: Chess.com vs. Lichess

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Post by dvirsky »

frogpelt wrote: post #199
toolslive wrote: post #144

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who cares about absolute rating? no matter what the rating of your opponent is, it's all about the _difference_ between theirs and yours. It would have been nice to just have 1 number and one unit but it isn't. Now you have x on Fide, y on lichess, z on USCF, t on chess.com and w on fics. (for me it's 2000 Fide, 2300 Lichess, no USCF, no chess.com and 1850 on fics )

Well, actually I've even found 600-level games on Chess.com to be harder than 900-level games. Obviously I've improved. But I wonder if the many of the very low ratings on Chess.com are just due to people making terrible blunders in otherwise pretty solid games.

I've also noticed that there isn't a lot of difference. You get horrible blunders from higher rated players and lower rated players will kick your ass. I can drop or rise 200 Elo points in a couple of hours easily.

Re: Chess.com vs. Lichess

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Post by dvirsky »

ycombinete wrote: post #125
frogpelt wrote: post #68

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Would you mind sharing your rating on each? I've found 600-level games on Chess.com much harder to win than 1000-level games on Lichess.

Lichess starts you out at 1500 vs chess.com's 1200. So the whole bell curve is shifted.

IIRC in chess.com you can start as beginner/intermediate/advanced and your initial rating will be 800/1200/1600 respectively.

Re: Chess.com vs. Lichess

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Post by albinofrenchy »

chollida1 wrote: post #188
albinofrenchy wrote: post #116

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It doesn't crash; it's sluggish. It's hard to quantify but it's like there is a quasi animation effect that you can't turn off. In something like 3|2 it's not terrible but in 1 minute games its a real issue. I thought for a while that maybe I was just used to the lichess interface but I don't have the same sluggish feel when playing on my phone on the website vs the app.

Interesting. I've never seen that, perhaps I'm just lucky, or not as good as you that i notice the lag:)

Or you are good enough you don't have to try flagging every game for a chance to win!

Re: Chess.com vs. Lichess

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Post by bananamerica »

ycombinete wrote: post #180
bananamerica wrote: post #177

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The setup is not that relevant, what is relevant is how long it takes to get a match. And chess.com is much quicker at that.

I disagree, the time it takes to start searching for a match is part of how long it takes to get a match. I’m assuming that you’re either very high or very low rated, because in the middle of the bell curve I find matches almost instantly on Lichess.

I do have a very low rating. When I create my account I started way up there, though.

Re: Chess.com vs. Lichess

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Post by HWR_14 »

ycombinete wrote: post #123
chollida1 wrote: post #80

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Interesting perspective. I have subscriptions to both and my first reaction was the exact opposite of yours. Chess.con is so far ahead of lichens that it wasn’t debatable. What in your opinion leads you to believe that lichess is eating chess.com’s lunch. For me games are far easier and quicker to setup with chess.com. The drills are better at chess.com and so are the lessons, both in-depth and breadth. I can’t reall…

> I have subscriptions to both I'm not sure how you have a subscription to Lichess when it's a free site. Do you donate? > My Elo rank on lichess is a full 500 points higher on lichess than chess.com The ratings difference on lichess is arbitrary. Everyone starts higher (1500 vs 1200), so the average is higher. > For me games are far easier and quicker to setup with chess.com Unless I've missed something on chess.com…

I think when you click "Play", Chess.com starts a new game with the previous game parameters. So, if you always play the same game, it's faster.

Re: Chess.com vs. Lichess

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Post by potamic »

kriops wrote: post #88

I think lichess.org is far superior in that it has a super-polished UX in ways that are not immediately obvious. After I made the switch from chess.com in 2014 (I had the paid features), it was always extremely annoying to come back. Also lichess.org gives you most of what chess.com tries to upsell you on, for free. As it happens I've re-validated this over the last few days with dozens of games on chess.com. A singl…

The UI is not only more polished, it is a web application packaged natively. Take that all you naysayers who insist you have to go native to write decent mobile apps.

It is not only a web application, it uses fucking mithril which hasn't seen an update in like 5 years. Take that you clueless hipsters who insist you have to use the latest reinvented framework with a yard length of dependencies to build modern UI.

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