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Re: Reddit files to go public

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Post by vrc » Thu, Dec 16, 2021, 2:27 PM UTC

hellomyguys wrote: post #622

wonderwonder wrote: post #608

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Zuckerberg has proven extremely effective at predicting future trends. Look at Instagram and Whatsapp, perfectly timed investments. Zuck has taken long term bets on the metaverse starting with Occulus and now seemingly betting the whole company on it. He could very well be wrong but there are a lot of very smart people at Facebook and on their board I have to think they did some very intensive validation before doing…

The difference is Instagram and WhatsApp were products that had real product value before Zuck acquired them. Zuck has to build a v1 product from scratch with the Metaverse. When's the last time FB has truly built a revolutionary v1 product? It's not really in their DNA anymore. I'm not saying they can't do it, but I wouldn't point to IG and WhatsApp as examples of why Zuck can pull it off.

Portal is pretty nifty to chat with families over WhatsApp.

Re: Reddit files to go public

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Post by geoduck14 » Thu, Dec 16, 2021, 2:27 PM UTC

tenpies wrote: post #616

wonderwonder wrote: post #608

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Zuckerberg has proven extremely effective at predicting future trends. Look at Instagram and Whatsapp, perfectly timed investments. Zuck has taken long term bets on the metaverse starting with Occulus and now seemingly betting the whole company on it. He could very well be wrong but there are a lot of very smart people at Facebook and on their board I have to think they did some very intensive validation before doing…

I always say that if you're interested in the Metaverse, I have many acres of land in Second Life for sale, and as many Linden Dollars as you'd like. This whole Metaverse thing reminds me of when IBM purchased 12 islands and opened a virtual office in Second Life. Of course, as was tradition at the time, someone inevitably showed up with a flying gentlemen's sausage. Eventually IBM decided the whole thing was too cos…

Oh wow. Someone already did this! How have I not heard about this yet?

Re: Reddit files to go public

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Post by PickledHotdog » Thu, Dec 16, 2021, 2:27 PM UTC

mdp2021 wrote: post #456

discardable_dan wrote: post #299

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Reddit said, not six months ago, that they weren't going to ban anti-vaccine rhetoric. The lead admin stated: "We appreciate that not everyone agrees with the current approach to getting us all through the pandemic, and some are still wary of vaccinations. Dissent is a part of Reddit and the foundation of democracy." [0] When you combine this with the fact that moderation on the site is unpaid, it's literally a land…

About your example, some points are not clear, with relevance to the outcome of litigation land mine. First of all, the part about the "right to dissent" I think was later retracted; and importantly, a witch hunt was in fact carried out - starting from r/aww ("the cute pets" or similar). I have just red on The Coversation the article " Shaming unvaccinated people has to stop. We've turned into an angry mob and it's g…

/r/HermanCainAward for anyone interested

Re: Reddit files to go public

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Post by teddyh » Thu, Dec 16, 2021, 2:29 PM UTC

2OEH8eoCRo0 wrote: post #579

rzz3 wrote: post #571

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Chat apps work just fine. I already feel tired, just thinking about having to wear VR gear all day while I work.

If we ever get to that point the VR gear would need to be effortless.

No, just mandatory.

Re: Reddit files to go public

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Post by chartpath » Thu, Dec 16, 2021, 2:30 PM UTC

nunez wrote: post #334

Good! I‘ll go long on them. Reddit is the ONLY place on the Internet where you can simultaneously watch garbage recycled content from TikTok and visit extremely-niche and highly knowledgeable communities in the same session. Heck, I get my HN updates from Reddit now. Facebook/Instagram/TikTok are nothing like this in that the info you get is wholly dependent on your social graph. Twitter has very high quality content…

Whenever I need to query the hive mind I just search directly on Reddit now, after a long period of searching in google with the keyword "reddit" included.

If I am querying something technical for work or hobby development I use the HN Algolia search.

Twitter is the only other social network I keep an account on, but barely ever visit because of the firehose of noise despite having a painstakingly selected list of accounts followed. E.g. lots of journalists doing great work, but also posting a lot of personal life updates that are not relevant to me.

Re: Reddit files to go public

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Post by Nasrudith » Thu, Dec 16, 2021, 2:33 PM UTC

epistasis wrote: post #628

loa_in_ wrote: post #498

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I'm getting really angry at companies squatting names that are basically common nouns. This practice should be banned. It's something I though was more cyberdystopian-esque not reality, but here we are in the future.

A land value tax solves this.

A land value tax for names? Or well copyrighted ones. I suppose brand reputation could have a value. It could also lead to companies cycling names for cheapness. Imagine say using Toyota-2022 as the offical name for Toyota.

The notion sounds a bit silly on the surface, but good enough at least for serious classroom discussions and evaluation.

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Post by throwaway946513 » Thu, Dec 16, 2021, 2:39 PM UTC

jinto36 wrote: post #631

ThalesX wrote: post #573

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Current VR gear? Maybe. Future VR gear, especially with big tech money in it? Maybe not so much.

Meanwhile, pairing a modern phone with the Bluetooth receiver in a rental car is still somehow a frustrating adventure more than half the time...

Physical cables my friend. Cables.

Joking aside, I've stopped using bluetooth in any vehicle that is not mine (actually using a rental this moment since my car is being worked on right now). Pretty much all rental cars have been built in the past 3 years, and for the most part they all have a USB for Android Auto or Apple CarPlay. So much easier to just use a cable and not hope the wireless connection stays working.

Though the cable itself isn't reliable sometimes and will disconnect itself/pause audio upon reconnection. Maybe good ol' FM and CDs are the way to go.

Re: Reddit files to go public

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Post by ppsreejith » Thu, Dec 16, 2021, 2:40 PM UTC

3maj wrote: post #615

2OEH8eoCRo0 wrote: post #598

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Nobody uses them because they are clunky and unnatural. The leap of faith is that soon the technology will make these things seamless and natural. Only then will virtual spaces take off in a meaningful way.

Here's a wild idea, meet in person.

What if they're in different cities?

Re: Reddit files to go public

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Post by nebula8804 » Thu, Dec 16, 2021, 2:40 PM UTC

nunez wrote: post #334

Good! I‘ll go long on them. Reddit is the ONLY place on the Internet where you can simultaneously watch garbage recycled content from TikTok and visit extremely-niche and highly knowledgeable communities in the same session. Heck, I get my HN updates from Reddit now. Facebook/Instagram/TikTok are nothing like this in that the info you get is wholly dependent on your social graph. Twitter has very high quality content…

Everything you described makes this public offering a potential bad thing. Whats going to happen when activist investors want a certain subreddit/post removed? What about ad companies not liking some content/subreddit? Moderation is going to get very strict. The relative anonymity of reddit may disappear. We have already seen the establishment supposedly co-opt the big subreddits like /r/politics. Now they will focus on snuffing out all the little guys on the platform. Everything you listed as a positive may disappear over time.

HN might become what Reddit is now. On the flip side the difficulty of removing posts here/simple upvote system/other limiting features may prevent that from ever happening. There have been attempts to clone Reddit, all have been terrible. Its clear that to create an equivalent, its going to take more than a weekend project.

Re: Reddit files to go public

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Post by sebow » Thu, Dec 16, 2021, 2:42 PM UTC

A censorious echo-chamber going public, what else is new?I just find it funny how people migrated from FB/Twitter to a somewhat more usable website and reddit is anything else besides garbage.

Ironically enough, the vast majority of people never used the website pre-2014, so they don't have anything or comparison besides "it's a different community-building website, therefore it's better".

It's not: their website on mobile is cancer, forcing people to install an app is not an argument, censorship(!= moderation, though i'm sure people will start pointing out how it's privately owned) is probably higher than even on places like FB when you compare the last few years(mainly because FB in the west has been somewhat watched), and the core principle of system on which the website functions is polarizing, even more than FB/Twitter.You add on top of that the scandals of (quite literally) 'corruption' between community moderators, staff, etc and the socially-obedient karma system, you end up with a gamified social network, except it's worse because everyone wants to comfortably stay in their own bubble.

Then again this same downstream phenomenon started applying to HN, you already see the cracks, and bullshit is more and more frequent here, a place where people know you can't avoid talking politics as the discussion length increases, knew to remain civil and discuss even the touchy subjects, detached.