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Re: Reddit files to go public

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Stop taking "the metaverse" seriously, please. It's a rich idiots dream, like a digital Fordlandia. I can hardly blame people for trying to follow trends, because following trends can be lucrative. "The metaverse" is just not the one to follow. It's nintendos virtualboy, vision getting ahead of substance, fixing problems we don't have. If it succeeds at all, it will be a testament to societies ability to bend to the…

You must be able to predict future since you seem very convinced in your view. Maybe you can tell us other things? Will k8s succeed? How about crypto too? You must have so much knowledge /s

Why is every single one of your posts defending cryptocurrency or k8s?

Re: Reddit files to go public

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Genuinely curious...are you old enough to remember Digg and what happened to it? I don't mean that to be patronizing...but I remember being on Digg and Reddit being a weird alternative. And after a series of huge mistakes, almost overnight Reddit was flooded with users and Digg relegated to nothing. It really opened my eyes to how quickly an empire built only on its users can disappear.

I’ve done posts before. As have others. The scope, popularity, and longevity of the fallen past top sites like Friendster, MySpace, Digg, Slashdot, Altavista, Excite. Or web builders like Geocities, Angelfire. Other social networks like Bebo, Hi5. Other messaging apps like Viber. Or older ones like AIM, MSN, Yahoo, ICQ. Finally people stopped bringing up the old messengers. They had such tiny userbases. The compariso…

But should those numbers be normalized for total numbers of internet users?

I'm honestly not sure but I think there's an argument for it. The internet was a smaller place as a whole before Digg's collapse. They can't have had users that didn't exist.

On the other hand, maybe turnover can be more rapid when a domain such as the internet itself is rapidly developing.

Just seems to me there's broader factors to consider than Digg per se or reddit per se.

Re: Reddit files to go public

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Meta has made a full announcement of vaporware, but the metaverse is specifically not Meta's property, nor do they get to define what the metaverse is/will become. In that sense, I agree with you we should ignore the marketing, and I also think we should talk about the metaverse as we talk about the web, not as some rigid concept, but more a vague idea of a thing in VR.

There will not be "a metaverse" or "the metaverse" They may be some competing metaverses, I doubt one will win out (I kind of doubt any will do well)

Why wouldn't one win out? There were multiple competing "internets" and now there is the one.

Re: Reddit files to go public

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I used to think this but Ben Thompson changed my mind. This meta verse thing really could be the way we work remotely soon. It works as a working space. It works for companies, it could create good work environments, and companies can afford expensive hardware to get people to work more effecively. Think of the metaverse as a more advanced slack+zoom, not as a Minecraft/Roblox alternative.

> Think of the metaverse as a more advanced slack+zoom What do you think is missing from today's slack+zoom (or discord +jitsi/google meet, or whatever) combo that would make you more productive?

Have you joined any company happy hours with 6+ attendees?

It inevitably turns into an awkward mess. Sure you can use breakout rooms but the social happy hour via zoom/slack is not a solved problem.

Re: Reddit files to go public

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> Think of the metaverse as a more advanced slack+zoom What do you think is missing from today's slack+zoom (or discord +jitsi/google meet, or whatever) combo that would make you more productive?

2010 - what do you think is missing from your work skype group chats that would make you more productive?

Nothing.

Re: Reddit files to go public

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Good! I‘ll go long on them. Reddit is the ONLY place on the Internet where you can simultaneously watch garbage recycled content from TikTok and visit extremely-niche and highly knowledgeable communities in the same session. Heck, I get my HN updates from Reddit now. Facebook/Instagram/TikTok are nothing like this in that the info you get is wholly dependent on your social graph. Twitter has very high quality content…

> Reddit can fit nicely into the metaverse Why do people keep talking about the metaverse like it already exists and is a huge part of our future? It's vaporware right now. Are we all so susceptible to marketing that we've just accepted that if Meta is going all-in on a thing it must be both real and a guaranteed win?

I suggest giving the oculus rift 2 a try. It is the farthest thing from vaporware.

Besides most people use a loose definition of metaverse that includes things like gaming (Minecraft, roblox), social media, our phones, etc. which are all multi-billion dollar industries already.

Re: Reddit files to go public

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> Reddit can fit nicely into the metaverse Why do people keep talking about the metaverse like it already exists and is a huge part of our future? It's vaporware right now. Are we all so susceptible to marketing that we've just accepted that if Meta is going all-in on a thing it must be both real and a guaranteed win?

I suggest giving the oculus rift 2 a try. It is the farthest thing from vaporware. Besides most people use a loose definition of metaverse that includes things like gaming (Minecraft, roblox), social media, our phones, etc. which are all multi-billion dollar industries already.

And there's the "genius" of their rebrand. By the loose definition the metaverse already exists, so Facebook (a company focused on building software that helps connect people via the Internet) rebranded to Meta (a company focused on building software that helps connect people via... gaming, social media, phones, and... the Internet? -- all of which they were already doing). If what you're setting out to build already exists, you can't fail.

But Mark Zuckerberg doesn't use the loose definition, as I mentioned in another comment. He talks about quite a clear vision of a world in which VR/AR technologies have permeated society and are part of everyone's everyday lives. That vision doesn't exist yet, it's a long way from being realized, and yet people (like the commenter I originally responded to) keep referencing it as if it already exists, is successful, and important. And it's none of those three things yet.

Re: Reddit files to go public

#598
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I used to think this but Ben Thompson changed my mind. This meta verse thing really could be the way we work remotely soon. It works as a working space. It works for companies, it could create good work environments, and companies can afford expensive hardware to get people to work more effecively. Think of the metaverse as a more advanced slack+zoom, not as a Minecraft/Roblox alternative.

Virtual spaces for work already exist and (almost) nobody uses them, so I don't know what a different name for the same thing is expected to accomplish.

Nobody uses them because they are clunky and unnatural. The leap of faith is that soon the technology will make these things seamless and natural. Only then will virtual spaces take off in a meaningful way.

Re: Reddit files to go public

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Reddit used to be amazing Now it's like a red flag in your resume if you worked for reddit Then they made a whole mess on the homepage. This is what happens when you hire mediocre engineers. Its like junior engineers who cant write code. Reddit mobile is not bad, but stop trying to make me install it. There are people who only wants to use web. But your web engineers are garbage their ads is incredibly bad. there are…

Reddit has possibly the worst mobile experience I've ever seen. I've never seen a company try to force its (awful, slow, buggy) app down people's throats harder if you try to use the mobile web version. The entire mod culture needs to be reworked too. They need mods because more people brings more trolls, but aggressive banning and simultaneous muting so people can't ask why just leads to more trolling. Not to mentio…

> I've never seen a company try to force its (awful, slow, buggy) app down people's throats harder if you try to use the mobile web version.

Instagram and Twitter do this as well, FWIW.

Re: Reddit files to go public

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> I doubt it will fund better search While I think better search would be great for users, I'm convinced Reddit doesn't actually want better search. Good search means I can easily find an old post with the answer to my questions. Bad search means I end up going to a subreddit and posting the same question that's been asked 15 times. Even if it's removed by the mods, it'll likely get one or two comments and votes befo…

What really gets me is people who don't seem to understand how to search for information online. If you go to something like /r/wearethemusicmakers (a sub for music making, mostly based around computers and software) you'll see people asking questions like "what is an audio interface and why do I need one?" You can type that question into google verbatim and find dozens of high production value Youtube videos explain…

> You can type that question into google verbatim and find dozens of high production value Youtube videos explaining exactly what an audio interface is.

Watching video is inefficient, I can read much quicker. I would search forums (such as Reddit) for an answer, but if I did not find one, I would post a question before I searched YouTube.

YouTube also has annoying product plug ins and ads and I have no idea what people are selling. I assume there is a lower proportion of advertisers to honest people just answering questions on YouTube, although I believe this has changed now due to the popularity of Reddit.

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