Russian court accidentally confirmed Russian military presence in Ukraine
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Re: Russian court accidentally confirmed Russian military presence in Ukraine
#2From Google Translate:
'A column of 70 vehicles with food is estimated at RUB130 million Rostov court published a verdict confirming the presence of the Russian military in Donbass
The Kirovsky District Court of Rostov-on-Don issued a verdict in November in a case of corruption in the supply of food, which indirectly confirms the presence of the Russian military in Donbas, where the war is going on. The document was published on the website of the court.
The defendant in the case was the deputy regional manager for military nutrition of one of the commercial companies. He was found guilty of bribing the head of the Center for State Sanitary and Epidemiological Supervision of the Southern Military District with the rank of lieutenant colonel.
It follows from the verdict that the official demanded 90 thousand rubles a month in order not to interfere with the supply of food to the Russian military. And we are talking about the military, who are in the east of Ukraine.
“His responsibilities included organizing and fulfilling obligations for the purchase and sale of food and the creation of the necessary stock in the warehouse The food was intended to be sent to military units of the RF Armed Forces deployed on the territory of the DPR and LPR,” the case file says.
According to the testimony of the accused, food supplies to the DPR and LPR were carried out every two weeks. For this, a column of "more than 70 vehicles with a carrying capacity of about 40 tons and a total volume of more than 1300 tons" was formed. Among the products were flour, canned food, fresh vegetables. “The total cost of food for one delivery was more than 130 million rubles,” the verdict says.
According to various estimates, one such delivery is enough to feed about 25 thousand people. The defendant also said that before the shipment of the cargo, the food was checked by a "Russian in the rank of major", and on the territory of Donbass the trucks were "under the protection of the receiving party."
The Kremlin denies the presence of the Russian military in the DPR and LPR.'
Re: Russian court accidentally confirmed Russian military presence in Ukraine
#3As if there was any doubt about this. Putin isn't fooling anybody except for maybe a very gullible fraction of the Russian citizens. But even there most people are quite aware of what the score is.
Re: Russian court accidentally confirmed Russian military presence in Ukraine
#4The text of the ruling was pulled from the Russian court site, but you can still verify it says the same stuff by hitting the Internet Archive from yesterday:
https://web.archive.org/web/20211215174957/https://kirovsky-...
Re: Russian court accidentally confirmed Russian military presence in Ukraine
#5As if there was any doubt about this. Putin isn't fooling anybody except for maybe a very gullible fraction of the Russian citizens. But even there most people are quite aware of what the score is.
Of course: it's not like anything will change even with proof.
In conflicts like these, it's always people in the area that'll suffer most.
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#6As if there was any doubt about this. Putin isn't fooling anybody except for maybe a very gullible fraction of the Russian citizens. But even there most people are quite aware of what the score is.
The top power move is to lie, and to know your lie will be obvious, and to know that there is nothing anyone can do about it.
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#7Putin justifies his clumsy adventurism by attempting to paint his enemies as fascists. The rise of the extreme right in the west provides significant political cover for Putin, and should probably be assumed to be a tool of his hybrid warfare strategy.
Re: Russian court accidentally confirmed Russian military presence in Ukraine
#8Putin justifies his clumsy adventurism by attempting to paint his enemies as fascists. The rise of the extreme right in the west provides significant political cover for Putin, and should probably be assumed to be a tool of his hybrid warfare strategy.
By painting your domestic voices of dissent as "Russian Assets" you're the closest thing next to an actual Russian Asset
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#9I think we in the west need something like a 'doctrine of the foregone conclusion'.
Often things are very obvious, even notorious, but because we do not want to face the eventuality, we do things like negotiate or perseverate our denials all while the situation escalates.
If NATO and the west are ready and willing to defend Ukraine (I suspect we are not), in which case a significant increase in our own presence would have made sense much earlier.
If we are not willing, then the Ukrainians really should be told that and given an opportunity to negotiate or find their own way.
I'm not sure that Cold War style standoffs via obscurity work the way they used to, there is just too much information available. The job is not to hide information or turn a blind eye to it, but rather to create as much or more activity and information as the opposing side.
Re: Russian court accidentally confirmed Russian military presence in Ukraine
#10They are on vacation only, nothing to see here.