Lichess is a bit sluggish in navigation, but it's almost purely community driven and you can feel that! I do support them and I really like their transparent philosophy, they even show you WHERE do they spend EVERY received $! Yes, there are some flaws, but me with other guys are actually making the website just better every day. Chess.com sure has their own philosophy, better moderation, better news articles (sometimes written by professional journalists), but hey, it's almost like a comparison of good paid service with good opensource community driven thing. Like... Windows vs Linux. Both do have their downsides, but the core philosophies are different and you just follow them or not.
Chess.com vs. Lichess
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Re: Chess.com vs. Lichess
#122I was just about to open lichess for some blitz games but thought I'd read hacker news first.
I used to play chess.com but it just feels spammy in comparison.
Re: Chess.com vs. Lichess
#123If you've been following these two products for the last few years it's definitely clear to see that Lichess is slowly eating chess.com's lunch ... They're not fast at development, but slowly and surely improving and innovating on the space via being open source. For example, Lichess puzzles aren't quite of the same quality yet and their puzzle games are new (BUT) they've built and are improving the tech to create ne…
Interesting perspective. I have subscriptions to both and my first reaction was the exact opposite of yours. Chess.con is so far ahead of lichens that it wasn’t debatable. What in your opinion leads you to believe that lichess is eating chess.com’s lunch. For me games are far easier and quicker to setup with chess.com. The drills are better at chess.com and so are the lessons, both in-depth and breadth. I can’t reall…
> I have subscriptions to both
I'm not sure how you have a subscription to Lichess when it's a free site. Do you donate?
> My Elo rank on lichess is a full 500 points higher on lichess than chess.com
The ratings difference on lichess is arbitrary. Everyone starts higher (1500 vs 1200), so the average is higher.
> For me games are far easier and quicker to setup with chess.com
Unless I've missed something on chess.com this makes no sense at all.
_To create a game on Chess.com:_
1. load site
2. hover over Play in the sidebar
3. click either New Game or Play (which one?)
4. Select time-control from a matrix (if you click on New Game it defaults to 10 minutes time control; if you click on Play it defaults to 1 minute).
5. click on Play to initiate search
_To create a game on Lichess:_
1. Load site
2. Select time-control from a matrix. search initiates immiediately
Re: Chess.com vs. Lichess
#124If you've been following these two products for the last few years it's definitely clear to see that Lichess is slowly eating chess.com's lunch ... They're not fast at development, but slowly and surely improving and innovating on the space via being open source. For example, Lichess puzzles aren't quite of the same quality yet and their puzzle games are new (BUT) they've built and are improving the tech to create ne…
Interesting perspective. I have subscriptions to both and my first reaction was the exact opposite of yours. Chess.con is so far ahead of lichens that it wasn’t debatable. What in your opinion leads you to believe that lichess is eating chess.com’s lunch. For me games are far easier and quicker to setup with chess.com. The drills are better at chess.com and so are the lessons, both in-depth and breadth. I can’t reall…
They use different rating systems, different starting values for elo and in general, elo is a measure of your strength relative to the player pool you're playing in, so your elo across websites is not meant to be comparable.
E.g. in Lichess you'll always start at 1500, while in Chess.com you can start at 400 or 1200 (and some values in between I believe), so it's pretty normal if your ratings differ with hundreds of points - in fact it would be very weird if they didn't (unless you're 2400+ I suppose).
By the way, an interesting comparison some people try to make is elo in Lichess/Chess.com and FIDE rating and see if one can estimate FIDE rating for someone who has never played over-the-board just from their Lichess blitz rating.
Re: Chess.com vs. Lichess
#125One thing not mentioned here is the players. Chess.com is much more beginner heavy. I'm a pretty bad player, and while on lichess I'm slightly below the median, on chess.com I'm around 80th percentile. It also feels like the common or average playing style is a bit different, more basic and aggressive on chess.com. Here we go, another Fried Liver!
Would you mind sharing your rating on each? I've found 600-level games on Chess.com much harder to win than 1000-level games on Lichess.
Lichess starts you out at 1500 vs chess.com's 1200. So the whole bell curve is shifted.
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#126Earlier quoted context omitted.
It doesn’t. Especially in this case, because lichess doesn’t even use elo ratings. It’s a different rating system altogether. https://lichess.org/faq#ratings
Chess.com also uses Glicko. Though it might be version 2 on lichess and version 1 on chess.com.
You're right about the versions, they also have wildly different starting values and very different player pools (I'd argue that more beginners play on chess.com), so you'd expect a substantial elo difference between websites
Re: Chess.com vs. Lichess
#127One thing not mentioned here is the players. Chess.com is much more beginner heavy. I'm a pretty bad player, and while on lichess I'm slightly below the median, on chess.com I'm around 80th percentile. It also feels like the common or average playing style is a bit different, more basic and aggressive on chess.com. Here we go, another Fried Liver!
Would you mind sharing your rating on each? I've found 600-level games on Chess.com much harder to win than 1000-level games on Lichess.
Chess.com and lichess use different rating systems, and give different ratings to new players. Chess.com ratings end up being consistently lower, but that doesn't correspond to you being in a lower percentile of players on chess.com (what parent was talking about).
For reference though, I'm 2000 lichess rapid, and 1700 chess.com rapid. I use chess.com as my "I'm not going to play well right now" site so it's a bit worse because of that, but mostly it's because of the difference in rating system/pool.
Re: Chess.com vs. Lichess
#128If you have some server sitting idle you could consider contributing cycles to the fishnet: https://lichess.org/get-fishnet
I requested this a few months ago as my server was sitting unused and I wanted to help. Never got an answer back, maybe because the server's specs aren't great. Either way now I've got nextcloud running so unfortunately too late :(
You probably had the "laptop mode" toggled on in the setup. With it on you will rarely get games to analyse. This will only send you games when the network is stressed. If you toggle it off you should get one game after another almost constantly.
I doubt it's speed. I was getting constant games with an i3-5100.
Re: Chess.com vs. Lichess
#129Earlier quoted context omitted.
Really? I play billet games on my phone almost daily. Maybe try to reinstall your app if or crashes or won’t let you play because I’d definitely should.
It doesn't crash; it's sluggish. It's hard to quantify but it's like there is a quasi animation effect that you can't turn off. In something like 3|2 it's not terrible but in 1 minute games its a real issue. I thought for a while that maybe I was just used to the lichess interface but I don't have the same sluggish feel when playing on my phone on the website vs the app.
There’s def a lag on chess.com ios app compared to that of lichess. It is super apparent in the endgames
Re: Chess.com vs. Lichess
#130Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't have the source, but I remember read the lichess didn't want to implement other board games in their interface. For XiangQi, I know that you can play it on playok.com (I know the rules and played a few games last time just to get the feeling, but I am more into chess and shogi...).
Yeah I get murdered there. I should learn to get better I am always beaten by computers too.
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