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Automate download, install, config of IE-only VM's with VirtualBox (Linux/OSX)

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Re: Automate download, install, config of IE-only VM's with VirtualBox (Linux/OSX)

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Post by pointyhat »

MarkSweep wrote: post #40
pointyhat wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

On Win7, the jump is due to WinSxS. Every DLL several times and several versions. DLL hell solved.

DLL hell solved indeed. How many versions do you keep? For what it's worth, the DLLs in System32 are projected out of WinSxS with hardlinks, so they should not take up extra space. You still have the multiple version thing, however that can be somewhat mitigated by making service packs permanent[1]. [1] http://blogs.technet.com/b/joscon/archive/2011/02/15/how-to-...

That quantity of hard links takes up quite a bit of space though!

Re: Automate download, install, config of IE-only VM's with VirtualBox (Linux/OSX)

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Post by pygy_ »

pygy_ wrote: post #38

A small meta-comment: xdissent[1], the author of this package, is a HN user, but he has negative karma because his fourth comment was snarky and got heavily downvoted. Even though he's aware of the ban he clings to this handle and continues to post messages seen by almost no one (he posted twice on this comment page [2,3]). The rest of the messages eversince the incident have been fine (enable "showdead" in the user…

xdissent: you appear to be still banned (at least, 4 hours after my post, you still were). Since you now have a positive karma, could you answer this post as a test?

Re: Automate download, install, config of IE-only VM's with VirtualBox (Linux/OSX)

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Post by lloeki »

irahul wrote: post #34
MatthewPhillips wrote: post #10

> curl -s https://raw.github.com/xdissent/ievms/master/ievms.sh | bash Bad trend in the open-source community. Please don't ask your users to install stuff this way. Not that you can't be trusted, it leads to people dropping their guard.

> Bad trend in the open-source community. Please don't ask your users to install stuff this way. Not that you can't be trusted, it leads to people dropping their guard. And what will be the right way to do it? The way people don't drop their guard? `./configure && make && sudo make install`? Or `sudo apt-get install`? How are any of these or many other options seemingly better than this?

You probably mean 'add-apt-repository foorepo && apt-get update && apt-get install foopkg' or 'dpkg -i foopkg' (as root) because as is, 'apt-get install' is innocuous given one uses the default trusted, signed and whatnot repos.

Re: Automate download, install, config of IE-only VM's with VirtualBox (Linux/OSX)

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Post by tripzilch »

pygy_ wrote: post #52
pygy_ wrote: post #38

A small meta-comment: xdissent[1], the author of this package, is a HN user, but he has negative karma because his fourth comment was snarky and got heavily downvoted. Even though he's aware of the ban he clings to this handle and continues to post messages seen by almost no one (he posted twice on this comment page [2,3]). The rest of the messages eversince the incident have been fine (enable "showdead" in the user…

xdissent: you appear to be still banned (at least, 4 hours after my post, you still were). Since you now have a positive karma, could you answer this post as a test?

I don't seem to see his posts unless I enable "showdead".

I didn't even know karma worked this way on HN. Quite ridiculous, IMHO, to completely hide someone if their karma runs too low. Especially if it can happen by unfortunate accident and ends up hiding a positive contributor completely from view--basically means the system is broken.

Re: Automate download, install, config of IE-only VM's with VirtualBox (Linux/OSX)

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Post by pygy_ »

tripzilch wrote: post #55
pygy_ wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

xdissent: you appear to be still banned (at least, 4 hours after my post, you still were). Since you now have a positive karma, could you answer this post as a test?

I don't seem to see his posts unless I enable "showdead". I didn't even know karma worked this way on HN. Quite ridiculous, IMHO, to completely hide someone if their karma runs too low. Especially if it can happen by unfortunate accident and ends up hiding a positive contributor completely from view--basically means the system is broken.

The dead-ban system makes the life of the moderators much easier by starving trolls who would otherwise create a new account as soon as they got banned. At HN's scale, it is necessary.

This case is unfortunate, though, but I guess that's why the showdead option exists.

I don't know if a negative karma turns on an irreversible ban flag, or if going back to positive will alleviate the ban. If not, I'll write a mail to pg.

Re: Automate download, install, config of IE-only VM's with VirtualBox (Linux/OSX)

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Post by xdissent »

pygy_ wrote: post #52
pygy_ wrote: post #38

A small meta-comment: xdissent[1], the author of this package, is a HN user, but he has negative karma because his fourth comment was snarky and got heavily downvoted. Even though he's aware of the ban he clings to this handle and continues to post messages seen by almost no one (he posted twice on this comment page [2,3]). The rest of the messages eversince the incident have been fine (enable "showdead" in the user…

xdissent: you appear to be still banned (at least, 4 hours after my post, you still were). Since you now have a positive karma, could you answer this post as a test?

Testing 1 2 3. This thing on?

Re: Automate download, install, config of IE-only VM's with VirtualBox (Linux/OSX)

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Post by pygy_ »

pygy_ wrote: post #52
pygy_ wrote: post #38

A small meta-comment: xdissent[1], the author of this package, is a HN user, but he has negative karma because his fourth comment was snarky and got heavily downvoted. Even though he's aware of the ban he clings to this handle and continues to post messages seen by almost no one (he posted twice on this comment page [2,3]). The rest of the messages eversince the incident have been fine (enable "showdead" in the user…

xdissent: you appear to be still banned (at least, 4 hours after my post, you still were). Since you now have a positive karma, could you answer this post as a test?

You're still banned. Time to drop a line to pg.

Re: Automate download, install, config of IE-only VM's with VirtualBox (Linux/OSX)

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Post by Groxx »

wahnfrieden wrote: post #39
michaelbuckbee wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I kind of view bash piping as the worlds easiest install package. Unequivocally, it is dangerous to run random pieces of code from the internet, it just seems odd to me that if this same code was in a nice packaged install wizard nobody would say anything about it.

Maybe it should include a first step of piping it to less for review, followed by piping to bash if it looks fine. Slightly better...

At which point the people who know how to read it will do so (I did, out of curiosity) because it's so easy, and the people who don't will get

  jargonjargon [*&*@![]2\3
  if [[jargon -f "words!"]]
    jargon # jargon jargon
    jargon /&$_)(82
  fi # jargon the jargon
  jar(){
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and just go to the next step.
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