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Facebook doesn't like privacy countermeasures

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Re: Facebook doesn't like privacy countermeasures

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I was surprised to find out that Facebook tracks not only what 'like' buttons you have been clicking but also where you have been browsing. Is there a privacy browser extension?

For Firefox, RequestPolicy adds a whitelist for requests to third-party websites. It's a hassle to set up, but it works. I don't know if an equivalent exists for Chrome.

Re: Facebook doesn't like privacy countermeasures

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Facebook, google, all these other giant technology firms... They will be looked back on in the future as ruthless opportunists doing their best to take advantage of the public with technology before anyone can figure out what they're doing and stop them.

The world is not some cute friendly little place. It is equally as barbarous today as it was in the dark ages. The TVs have convinced everyone otherwise it seems. Evil people are using machines to take over the world.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9RiRfMYVlQ&feature=chann...

Re: Facebook doesn't like privacy countermeasures

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I was surprised to find out that Facebook tracks not only what 'like' buttons you have been clicking but also where you have been browsing. Is there a privacy browser extension?

Disconnect for Chrome is great, but it only blocks a limited number of social sites.

Re: Facebook doesn't like privacy countermeasures

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Facebook better wake up and realize that especially thanks to companies like them and their failure to self-regulate and respect privacy values outside the US, using Like-buttons for tracking is likely to become illegal in the EU and many other places in the next five years. Technically, one could argue that they already violate existing laws, but incidents like these will make absolutely sure that these practices wi…

I would like to add that contrary to your impression we too value privacy in USA.

Consider the massive usage of Facebook and Twitter, the lack of outrage over the warrantless wiretapping scandal (running for 10.5 years now), easily available voter records (see e.g. the backstory behind Latanya Sweeney's original identifiability study), and lack of public comments about requiring ISPs to store all session information for a long time - I would say that is strong evidence that USA as a nation does not actually value privacy.

edit: wireless wiretapping scandal -> warrantless wiretapping scandal, silly me.

Re: Facebook doesn't like privacy countermeasures

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This is a non-story for the reasons stated but a story for other reasons.

It's standard that widget publishers require to use their widget "as is". That's basically what Facebook is saying. Not only do you not know what any custom modifications will necessarily do but it's a completely valid argument that you want a consistent user experience with your widget.

As for user tracking, this is basically an inevitable byproduct of Facebook hosting the widget, a situation I'm sure they're not unhappy about, but this really isn't a big deal in the context of how the Web works.

The story here (IMHO) is trust. Most pages have a Google Analytics tracking script on them. Do you trust Google? I do (disclaimer: I work for Google). Protecting user data and privacy are key priorities here. It's why Google+ has relatively simple privacy controls and allows you to export your data at any time.

Do you trust Facebook? I don't. Then again, there aren't many companies I do trust. But Facebook's track record seems to be to befuddle the user and trick or opt them into sharing things wider than they understand or want.

Re: Facebook doesn't like privacy countermeasures

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post #35

This is a non-story for the reasons stated but a story for other reasons. It's standard that widget publishers require to use their widget "as is". That's basically what Facebook is saying. Not only do you not know what any custom modifications will necessarily do but it's a completely valid argument that you want a consistent user experience with your widget. As for user tracking, this is basically an inevitable byp…

So when are you guys going to back up the openness propaganda and open source something of substance other than protobuf?

Re: Facebook doesn't like privacy countermeasures

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also worth noting that Firefox users who prefer the idea of whitelisting cross-site requests rather than blacklisting them, can install RequestPolicy.

Does anyone know the equivalent Chrome extension?

I am working on it here:

http://www.github.com/nikcub/parley

I will have a new version out at the end of this weekend

I think it is time to kill all third-party requests. If you want to show users an ad, host it from your own server.

Re: Facebook doesn't like privacy countermeasures

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post #35

This is a non-story for the reasons stated but a story for other reasons. It's standard that widget publishers require to use their widget "as is". That's basically what Facebook is saying. Not only do you not know what any custom modifications will necessarily do but it's a completely valid argument that you want a consistent user experience with your widget. As for user tracking, this is basically an inevitable byp…

> But Facebook's track record seems to be to befuddle the user and trick or opt them into sharing things wider than they understand or want.

Just like Google did with Buzz

That was such a clusterfuck that for most people Google is in the same bucket as Facebook when it comes to 'caring about user privacy'

Re: Facebook doesn't like privacy countermeasures

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post #35

This is a non-story for the reasons stated but a story for other reasons. It's standard that widget publishers require to use their widget "as is". That's basically what Facebook is saying. Not only do you not know what any custom modifications will necessarily do but it's a completely valid argument that you want a consistent user experience with your widget. As for user tracking, this is basically an inevitable byp…

This was a copyright issue about locally hosted images. Heise changed the initial image and everyone is happy.

I'm happy to hear you trust Google, but trying to warp this into a smear on Facebook (my employer) about trust is in poor taste.

Re: Facebook doesn't like privacy countermeasures

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does anyone know the equivalent Chrome extension?

I am working on it here: http://www.github.com/nikcub/parley I will have a new version out at the end of this weekend I think it is time to kill all third-party requests. If you want to show users an ad, host it from your own server.

Thanks! Remember to 'Show HN' when you hit beta / have it up on the chrome extensions site.
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