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Chess.com vs. Lichess

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Re: Chess.com vs. Lichess

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Post by Brajeshwar »

I'm not really concerned about the design, UI/UX or the algorithms as I just play pretty much at random to beat boredom, anxiety, and time-fillers. I don't make "friends" nor do I train, puzzles, or anything but just want to play with another human on the other end. I approach game plays on the experience and mistakes, and tries a more heuristic approach. I know I should try to learn the tactics.

As of today (on chess.com since Jul 8, 2007), I have played 15,472 and done 1 puzzle and 1 lesson. 1415 rating in Blitz, and I play either 3min or 5min max.

I have played 79 games on Lichess since joining in May 10, 2015. 1716 in Blitz.

I always land up on chess.com because there are enough people that I open a challenge, I get a player on the other end within seconds. Not so on Lichess - I have waited for 30+ minutes on most occasions.

Re: Chess.com vs. Lichess

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Post by demopathos »

frogpelt wrote: post #68
dvirsky wrote: post #48

One thing not mentioned here is the players. Chess.com is much more beginner heavy. I'm a pretty bad player, and while on lichess I'm slightly below the median, on chess.com I'm around 80th percentile. It also feels like the common or average playing style is a bit different, more basic and aggressive on chess.com. Here we go, another Fried Liver!

Would you mind sharing your rating on each? I've found 600-level games on Chess.com much harder to win than 1000-level games on Lichess.

I'm 1500 lichess and approx 1250 chess.com

50th percentile lichess and 80th percentile chess.com

Re: Chess.com vs. Lichess

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Post by GhettoComputers »

S4M wrote: post #104
GhettoComputers wrote: post #99

I would love to see XiangQi on Lichess or a suggestion for a good one. I suck at Chinese chess, but after learning it I was demolishing my friends from the headspace it gave me, the complexity really seemed to help me be a better chess player. I feel like I was an amateur "take as many pieces as you can and overwhelm the king" before and Chinese Chess turned me into a "sacrifice your pieces to position yourself bette…

I don't have the source, but I remember read the lichess didn't want to implement other board games in their interface. For XiangQi, I know that you can play it on playok.com (I know the rules and played a few games last time just to get the feeling, but I am more into chess and shogi...).

Yeah I get murdered there. I should learn to get better I am always beaten by computers too.

Re: Chess.com vs. Lichess

#115

Post by retzkek »

tzs wrote: post #46

It has been a few years since I looked at any of the major chess sites, but it used to be that chess.com had way more teaching and training material than lichess. Where do they stand nowadays in that regard? I also see that ChessCube.com is gone. Too bad. They had an interesting tournament format whose name I forget that was wild and fun. Instead of having a fixed number of games like normal tournaments, these ran fo…

Lichess calls that an "arena" tournament, they run constantly.

Re: Chess.com vs. Lichess

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Post by albinofrenchy »

chollida1 wrote: post #85
albinofrenchy wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The lichess app is all around better. Bullet is unplayable on chess.com's app.

Really? I play billet games on my phone almost daily. Maybe try to reinstall your app if or crashes or won’t let you play because I’d definitely should.

It doesn't crash; it's sluggish. It's hard to quantify but it's like there is a quasi animation effect that you can't turn off. In something like 3|2 it's not terrible but in 1 minute games its a real issue.

I thought for a while that maybe I was just used to the lichess interface but I don't have the same sluggish feel when playing on my phone on the website vs the app.

Re: Chess.com vs. Lichess

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Post by yesimahuman »

albinofrenchy wrote: post #47
imgabe wrote: post #31

I also recently switched to Lichess after using Chess.com for years. What tipped it for me was that I switched to an iPhone, and for some reason the Chess.com app on the iPhone absolutely obliterated my battery. I'm not sure what the issue was and maybe it's been fixed, but for a while it was just eating up battery life while playing like nothing else. The servers for Lichess I find a little less reliable, but it's m…

The lichess app is all around better. Bullet is unplayable on chess.com's app.

Fun fact: the lichess app is built with Capacitor and is open source https://github.com/veloce/lichobile

Re: Chess.com vs. Lichess

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Post by zwegner »

dragontamer wrote: post #24
thom wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, that’s all I meant, PEXT does the same job as magic bitboards where it’s available. But my point was that either way it’s run once (I seem to remember it’s even a constexpr in recent Stockfishes) so I’d be surprised if it were a major performance hit.

> But my point was that either way it’s run once Both Magic Bitboards and PEXT are run every single time Stockfish thinks of a Queen, Bishop, or Rook. Literally every, single, time. Stockfish does something like 10-million positions per second or something. That's a lot of times the "where can the Queen move" analysis is run. Speeding that routine up by 50% or something (PEXT vs Magic Bitboards) really does make a di…

Is the performance difference of PEXT vs. the classic 64-bit magic bitboards actually close to 50%? The very slight latency increase of and/multiply/shift instead of pext should be somewhat offset by somewhat smaller tables (since magic hashing can have helpful collisions), right?

I should probably know this, since I "discovered" PEXT bitboards, but I got out of computer chess before I got BMI-capable hardware, and so I never actually implemented them :)

Re: Chess.com vs. Lichess

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Post by DarylZero »

Brajeshwar wrote: post #111

I'm not really concerned about the design, UI/UX or the algorithms as I just play pretty much at random to beat boredom, anxiety, and time-fillers. I don't make "friends" nor do I train, puzzles, or anything but just want to play with another human on the other end. I approach game plays on the experience and mistakes, and tries a more heuristic approach. I know I should try to learn the tactics. As of today (on ches…

In 2021 you can always get a blitz game in 1 or 2 seconds on lichess by choosing one of the standard time controls (in the "quick game" tab, which is the front page).
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