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Re: James Dyson answers design questions from Twitter [video]

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Post by freshpots » Thu, Dec 16, 2021, 12:55 AM UTC

blitzar wrote: post #35

tigerlily wrote: post #19

Well, the worst product I own is one of his bagless vacuum cleaners. The crummy look and feel, the unbelievably loud and high-pitched whine and the accompanying tinnitus-inducing higher order acoustic harmonics, and just the overall plasticky shittiness of it after about an hour of dragging it around is simply vomit-inducing. My pet hate is the 100x added friction between the retractable bristles and my plush carpet.…

> just the overall plasticky shittiness of it after about an hour of dragging it around is simply vomit-inducing Get the battery one. No more hour of dragging it around - you only get 5-7 minutes before it is dead, then back on the wall. The downside is I think they found an even lower bidder for the plastic when they made them, so that 5 minutes feels like a lifetime.

Really 5 minutes? That has not been my experience, not even close.

Re: James Dyson answers design questions from Twitter [video]

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Post by rootusrootus » Thu, Dec 16, 2021, 12:57 AM UTC

blitzar wrote: post #27

rootusrootus wrote: post #11

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It's hit or miss. For a plug-in vacuum, there are others I would choose first. But for a cordless stick vacuum, nobody else is comparable.

> But for a cordless stick vacuum, nobody else is comparable. I own one; if it is better than the rest then the whole genre of stick vacuum cleaners should be taken out back and shot. Core function (sucking things up from my carpet and disposing of the content): charitably I would say it is poor for the half a room that the battery charge lasts for. Build quality: terrible cheap brittle cheap shattering cheap plastic…

I don't really disagree. They seem flimsy, battery life ain't great. But they suck better than any other cordless stick vac. Which might say more about the competition than anything else. I'm actually pretty impressed with what it picks up, given that it runs on a battery.

Re: James Dyson answers design questions from Twitter [video]

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Post by tshaddox » Thu, Dec 16, 2021, 12:57 AM UTC

rootusrootus wrote: post #11

jimnotgym wrote: post #8

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I really dislike Dyson. 1) Move to Singapore, citing that Britain won't join the euro as a factor. 2) EU energy efficiency test goes against his product 3) Campaigns for Brexit I had one of his vacuum cleaners and it was under powered and always needed cleaning inside. I got a Meile with a bag afterwards. Much more powerful for less money.

It's hit or miss. For a plug-in vacuum, there are others I would choose first. But for a cordless stick vacuum, nobody else is comparable.

They are generally the most powerful stick vacs, but in my research it seems like there are several more practical options (and for a lot less money). I like the vacuums with a single head containing both a soft roller with an exposed front face (for picking up larger debris while maintains decent section with hard floors) and a traditional brush roller behind it. The Dysons I have seen come with two heads that are interchangeable, and in my apartment changing the head between hard floors and carpet is a total non-starter.

If you want to suck sand out of a groove in a hard floor with sheer power, or get the most debris you can out of a thick carpet, Dyson might be a great choice. But if you just want to quickly do a routine vacuuming of your (smallish) home I think there are better cheaper options.

Re: James Dyson answers design questions from Twitter [video]

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Post by rootusrootus » Thu, Dec 16, 2021, 12:59 AM UTC

smeyer wrote: post #66

blitzar wrote: post #49

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The max button is like the old turbo button for your computer. Does anyone really use 'slow' mode?

What type of floor do you and others complaining in the thread have? I own one, and almost never use the "max" setting. I have hardwood floors and a hardwood floor-specific head for the vacuum, so I'm wondering if all the negative experiences are coming from folks with carpet.

I use max for carpet, weak mode for hardwood. Doesn't take a lot to pick things up off a hard surface, but running the carpet beater off air suction needs a lot more oomph.

Re: James Dyson answers design questions from Twitter [video]

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Post by rootusrootus » Thu, Dec 16, 2021, 1:02 AM UTC

city41 wrote: post #40

rootusrootus wrote: post #11

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It's hit or miss. For a plug-in vacuum, there are others I would choose first. But for a cordless stick vacuum, nobody else is comparable.

I find their stick vacuums are complete junk. I'll never buy a Dyson again. They get clogged almost every time you use them (you gotta either jam a butter knife down the main intake or take apart the filter, both susceptible to blockage). The max button gets stuck in the on position, the battery only lasts a few months. I don't understand the appeal at all.

I guess I've had better luck. It doesn't clog for me (but it does suck up so much fur from apparently clean carpet that it fills the basket fairly quick). My only real complaint is that the charging base is flimsy. I haven't broken it yet, but that's because I'm fairly careful with it because it looks so fragile.

Re: James Dyson answers design questions from Twitter [video]

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Post by rootusrootus » Thu, Dec 16, 2021, 1:04 AM UTC

tshaddox wrote: post #83

rootusrootus wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's hit or miss. For a plug-in vacuum, there are others I would choose first. But for a cordless stick vacuum, nobody else is comparable.

They are generally the most powerful stick vacs, but in my research it seems like there are several more practical options (and for a lot less money). I like the vacuums with a single head containing both a soft roller with an exposed front face (for picking up larger debris while maintains decent section with hard floors) and a traditional brush roller behind it. The Dysons I have seen come with two heads that are i…

We mostly end up using ours for touch up work between deep cleaning with a corded commercial vac that I bought years ago. The battery just lasts barely long enough to make a halfway decent pass over the living room. Good for when I want to just quickly get the place tidied up without dragging out the rest of the cleaning gear. I find that we keep the house cleaner in general if it's trivial to run a vacuum over the floor pretty often.

Re: James Dyson answers design questions from Twitter [video]

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Post by shiftpgdn » Thu, Dec 16, 2021, 1:07 AM UTC

Isthatablackgsd wrote: post #54

jimnotgym wrote: post #8

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I really dislike Dyson. 1) Move to Singapore, citing that Britain won't join the euro as a factor. 2) EU energy efficiency test goes against his product 3) Campaigns for Brexit I had one of his vacuum cleaners and it was under powered and always needed cleaning inside. I got a Meile with a bag afterwards. Much more powerful for less money.

> I got a Meile with a bag afterwards. Hiyo neighbor! I love my Miele bagged vacuum (Powerline C2), my partner hate it because it is lumpy to move around. So we have a second vacuum, the Shark one, for "less lumpy". I always use my Miele when I want to vacuum because I need powerful suction and brush to remove my dog stubborn fur which Shark one failed to do so.

I hate my shark so much because it feels like cheap plastic and is weighted weird so it constantly falls over. Also the bin is comically small.

Re: James Dyson answers design questions from Twitter [video]

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Post by blitzar » Thu, Dec 16, 2021, 1:08 AM UTC

tlear wrote: post #72

blitzar wrote: post #27

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> But for a cordless stick vacuum, nobody else is comparable. I own one; if it is better than the rest then the whole genre of stick vacuum cleaners should be taken out back and shot. Core function (sucking things up from my carpet and disposing of the content): charitably I would say it is poor for the half a room that the battery charge lasts for. Build quality: terrible cheap brittle cheap shattering cheap plastic…

I wonder about this, I heard same claim before. I however owned 2 of them over the last 5 years(moved a country and did not bring first one). Fact that I bought the second one kinda tells the story. Honest I never had any issue with them.. maybe if you have a huge house? Or really thick carpets. I find it incredibly convenient and it works well enough, convenient means you can use it every day and do not need to get…

It certainly is convenient enough to use every day, but you have to. Any attempt to deeply clean a moderately sized room is going to involve considering a recharge, and certainly more work than basically any plug in.

I can think of a few small flats with all laminate flooring I have lived in that it would have been great in, but the $20 small plug in thing I had worked probably just as well, and not a lot less convenient.

Re: James Dyson answers design questions from Twitter [video]

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Post by dylan604 » Thu, Dec 16, 2021, 1:08 AM UTC

city41 wrote: post #40

rootusrootus wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's hit or miss. For a plug-in vacuum, there are others I would choose first. But for a cordless stick vacuum, nobody else is comparable.

I find their stick vacuums are complete junk. I'll never buy a Dyson again. They get clogged almost every time you use them (you gotta either jam a butter knife down the main intake or take apart the filter, both susceptible to blockage). The max button gets stuck in the on position, the battery only lasts a few months. I don't understand the appeal at all.

>They get clogged almost every time you use them

Sounds like Dyson would be a perfect to start making consumer printers!

Re: James Dyson answers design questions from Twitter [video]

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Post by dylan604 » Thu, Dec 16, 2021, 1:10 AM UTC

blitzar wrote: post #46

chrisseaton wrote: post #34

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I think hair curlers are cylindrical, while straighteners are flat. You can curl with a flat surface by heating up and then curling around the whole thing. But with a curler there's nothing flat to shape against!

I have googled it, a person on youtube claims to be able to straighten hair with a curler; some kind of magic I think - I am not willing to suffer the pain that watching the video would inflict on my youtube reccomendations to determine the exact form of magic or witchcraft involved.

Just searching for it probably did harm in and of itself. "Because you searched for..." type of stuff