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Chess.com vs. Lichess

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Re: Chess.com vs. Lichess

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Post by aflag »

dvirsky wrote: post #51
e4e5 wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I disagree, ACPL is a well defined system, while nobody really knows what the accuracy means or how it's defined. 1 CPL, in short, is the loss of 1/100th of a pawn. Take the average of that and you get ACPL. So a ACPL of 100 means that you on average lost one pawn on every move (of course this isn't literal) that you played.

I've read the meaning and I can tell what the numbers mean, but it's still less intuitive than percentage.

Interesting, I find the exact opposite. Measuring things in terms of pawns give me a feel of how far behind I was from optimal play, whereas with the percentage, it's quite abstract. What does 70% accuracy mean?

Re: Chess.com vs. Lichess

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Post by dvirsky »

aflag wrote: post #61
dvirsky wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've read the meaning and I can tell what the numbers mean, but it's still less intuitive than percentage.

Interesting, I find the exact opposite. Measuring things in terms of pawns give me a feel of how far behind I was from optimal play, whereas with the percentage, it's quite abstract. What does 70% accuracy mean?

That you're 30% far from optimal play :)

Re: Chess.com vs. Lichess

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Post by rtpg »

tehnub wrote: post #34

Multiple premoves is not really a pro for chess.com. Premoves function differently on the two websites. On chess.com, each premove takes 0.1 seconds from your clock when it executes, while on Lichess, they do not take any time at all. Given that difference, having multiple premoves would be too strong. Given the way premoves behave differently, I wouldn't say either one is superior to the other.

Conditional pre-moves on chess.com are very useful for people playing correspondence chess, so that games can finish up a bit more quickly

Re: Chess.com vs. Lichess

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Post by whoisjohnkid »

samdg wrote: post #16

A feature I was surprised not to see in the "Cleaner page UI during chess games" section: Lichess has a zen mode that maximally simplifies the UI. It removes the chat, navigation menu, move history notation. You're left with the board, clocks, resign/draw/takeback actions, and move replay. You can activate it by pressing "Z" during a game, and there's a menu option too.

Yes zen mode is amazing. You’d be surprised at how much better you do when you just focus on the game vs paying attention to your opponents rating.

Re: Chess.com vs. Lichess

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Post by whoisjohnkid »

started off with chess.com and moved over to lichess years ago. Haven’t looked back since. Yeah sometimes it takes a while to join a game if you are trying to just play casual, but all in all I like it better. Can’t believe it’s mostly ran by one guy. Thought they had a team of devs, makes me appreciate the product even more now.

Re: Chess.com vs. Lichess

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Post by andrewzah »

freediver wrote: post #19

I spent a lot of time on chess.com (including paying for membership) but recently switched to lichess, because simply it feels a better, more polished, product. Love the fact it does not have ads ( https://lichess.org/blog/YF-ZORQAACAA89PI/why-lichess-will-a... . ) unlike chess.com which is ad-infested. Lichess is very customizable. Love the everyday tournaments and the community there as well. Would pay for it. The…

Lichess has a monthly subscription you can get for $5 or a custom amount. Does nothing except except make your badge a different color. Totally worth it to support such a great site.

Re: Chess.com vs. Lichess

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Post by ydnaclementine »

gompertz wrote: post #53

A smidge off topic, but I'm curious; is there a place where you can upload (say) a chess bot you designed and play against other uploaded chess bots? (or any move base game, even as simple as 'paper rock scissors')?

You can do so on lichess. Basically you create a chess engine, set it as a bot account, and let it go against other engines and real players.

I don't do it myself, but more info here: https://lichess.org/blog/WvDNticAAMu_mHKP/welcome-lichess-bo... And here: https://lichess.org/api#operation/botAccountUpgrade

Re: Chess.com vs. Lichess

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Post by frogpelt »

dvirsky wrote: post #48

One thing not mentioned here is the players. Chess.com is much more beginner heavy. I'm a pretty bad player, and while on lichess I'm slightly below the median, on chess.com I'm around 80th percentile. It also feels like the common or average playing style is a bit different, more basic and aggressive on chess.com. Here we go, another Fried Liver!

Would you mind sharing your rating on each?

I've found 600-level games on Chess.com much harder to win than 1000-level games on Lichess.

Re: Chess.com vs. Lichess

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Post by tehnub »

rtpg wrote: post #63
tehnub wrote: post #34

Multiple premoves is not really a pro for chess.com. Premoves function differently on the two websites. On chess.com, each premove takes 0.1 seconds from your clock when it executes, while on Lichess, they do not take any time at all. Given that difference, having multiple premoves would be too strong. Given the way premoves behave differently, I wouldn't say either one is superior to the other.

Conditional pre-moves on chess.com are very useful for people playing correspondence chess, so that games can finish up a bit more quickly

That's a different feature, but sounds cool! Didn't know about that.

Re: Chess.com vs. Lichess

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Post by jacobsenscott »

If you get a paid subscription to chess.com it evens out. No ads, etc. You have a lot of control over your view of the chess game - it doesn't need to be cluttered. I appreciate that lichess is free and opensource, but I think chess.com has done a lot for the chess world with all the money they made during the lockdown. Especially during the pandemic, when there were no OTB tournaments chess.com put money into a lot of tournaments.
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