'We won and we didn't notice' - a conversation with Jeremy Allison of Samba
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Re: 'We won and we didn't notice' - a conversation with Jeremy Allison of Samba
#2For context:
"In twenty years everything has become Linux. I have a music system that is entirely Linux-based. I have a video streaming and TV watching system that is entirely Linux-based. I wouldn't be surprised if every flat screen television I have is also Linux-based. The laptop and the desktop my wife uses to do her online banking and email is Linux. My phone is Linux, and my son's tablet PC is Linux..."
So his family uses Linux and they've apparently won. That's like Steve Ballmer saying his kid use Zune so they won the MP3 wars.
With that said Linux has become the most popular Unix variant by a large margin -- but who hasn't noticed? It's been years in the making, well telegraphed, with thousands of articles written about it.
Re: 'We won and we didn't notice' - a conversation with Jeremy Allison of Samba
#3For context: "In twenty years everything has become Linux. I have a music system that is entirely Linux-based. I have a video streaming and TV watching system that is entirely Linux-based. I wouldn't be surprised if every flat screen television I have is also Linux-based. The laptop and the desktop my wife uses to do her online banking and email is Linux. My phone is Linux, and my son's tablet PC is Linux..." So his…
I believe his point is that Linux has deeply pervaded practically everything except end-user PCs, and that we should recognize that this is really a big success even if it's not the holy grail of the "Linux desktop".
Not quite like Steve Ballmer saying Windows won because his kid uses a Zune. Linux will be in almost every advanced home appliance and/or consumer electronic you buy, whether you know it or not; Windows is on a very small handful of embedded devices manufactured by Microsoft (with the exception of Windows mobile OSes and of course, PCs).
Re: 'We won and we didn't notice' - a conversation with Jeremy Allison of Samba
#4For context: "In twenty years everything has become Linux. I have a music system that is entirely Linux-based. I have a video streaming and TV watching system that is entirely Linux-based. I wouldn't be surprised if every flat screen television I have is also Linux-based. The laptop and the desktop my wife uses to do her online banking and email is Linux. My phone is Linux, and my son's tablet PC is Linux..." So his…
He's one of the guys who was around when linux was still someones graduate studies project.
He sees Linux as the underdog.
For the underdog, merely becoming part of the mass market plurality is a Victory.
For a billion dollar company like Microsoft getting a new product pushed out by major manufacturers is simply par for course.
Re: 'We won and we didn't notice' - a conversation with Jeremy Allison of Samba
#5For context: "In twenty years everything has become Linux. I have a music system that is entirely Linux-based. I have a video streaming and TV watching system that is entirely Linux-based. I wouldn't be surprised if every flat screen television I have is also Linux-based. The laptop and the desktop my wife uses to do her online banking and email is Linux. My phone is Linux, and my son's tablet PC is Linux..." So his…
But I think you would be surprised by the amount of consumer electronic devices that run linux. My Toshiba TV runs linux, and it doesn't have a DVR or anything like that. None of those fancy widgets and internet connectivity. Just a plain up TV running linux.
Re: 'We won and we didn't notice' - a conversation with Jeremy Allison of Samba
#6For context: "In twenty years everything has become Linux. I have a music system that is entirely Linux-based. I have a video streaming and TV watching system that is entirely Linux-based. I wouldn't be surprised if every flat screen television I have is also Linux-based. The laptop and the desktop my wife uses to do her online banking and email is Linux. My phone is Linux, and my son's tablet PC is Linux..." So his…
But I think you would be surprised by the amount of consumer electronic devices that run linux. My Toshiba TV runs linux, and it doesn't have a DVR or anything like that. None of those fancy widgets and internet connectivity. Just a plain up TV running linux.
Can you get at the Linux on devices like this? Could you, say, install a MythTV front end, or run Doom on it?
Just curious.
Re: 'We won and we didn't notice' - a conversation with Jeremy Allison of Samba
#7At my company, I develop on a Linux system for a Linux system, using Linux servers to store source code.
Things are getting more and more 'penguin' all the time. :-)
Re: 'We won and we didn't notice' - a conversation with Jeremy Allison of Samba
#8For context: "In twenty years everything has become Linux. I have a music system that is entirely Linux-based. I have a video streaming and TV watching system that is entirely Linux-based. I wouldn't be surprised if every flat screen television I have is also Linux-based. The laptop and the desktop my wife uses to do her online banking and email is Linux. My phone is Linux, and my son's tablet PC is Linux..." So his…
We won because said Steve Ballmer has/would have to go out of his way just to avoid having a Linux kernel somewhere in his house.
Now with that hyperbole pushed there it'd be interesting to see how true this is. Furnishing a full rich house with common appliances how likely are you to have one or more Linux kernel? FOSS in general?
Re: 'We won and we didn't notice' - a conversation with Jeremy Allison of Samba
#9For context: "In twenty years everything has become Linux. I have a music system that is entirely Linux-based. I have a video streaming and TV watching system that is entirely Linux-based. I wouldn't be surprised if every flat screen television I have is also Linux-based. The laptop and the desktop my wife uses to do her online banking and email is Linux. My phone is Linux, and my son's tablet PC is Linux..." So his…
I believe his point is that Linux has deeply pervaded practically everything except end-user PCs, and that we should recognize that this is really a big success even if it's not the holy grail of the "Linux desktop". Not quite like Steve Ballmer saying Windows won because his kid uses a Zune. Linux will be in almost every advanced home appliance and/or consumer electronic you buy, whether you know it or not; Windows…
You're forgetting most of the enterprise software market and a significant portion (15%) of all web servers in the world. Why do we always have to be so adversarial when it comes to choice of software? The Microsoft stack works great in the areas where is is popular, and the .NET library and the related development tools are excellent.
Re: 'We won and we didn't notice' - a conversation with Jeremy Allison of Samba
#10Note to Microsoft PR flacks: it now behooves you to rail against the oppressive Linux monoculture.
Also, there must be quite a few underdog skins hanging in your walls, try donning one of them for greater effect.
(But do not kill whatever seed you now have of what will be the Microsoft Linux release of 2016/17.)