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Google is building a new augmented reality device and operating system

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Re: Google is building a new augmented reality device and operating system

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Even Google Wave could be another example of this. They killed it almost instantly? This was before Slack, discord, etc.

It couldn't even scale up to 200 messages, because it was all so incredibly unoptimized. It's like one guy worked on it, then it was immediately abandoned.

Someone at Google couldn't count that low. /s

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Similar to other commenters, I came here in anger. Google has fucked it’s users, it’s developers, and the broader ecosystem with its handling of AR. Google’s engineers should be embarrassed, and the executive teams who suddenly are pretending to ‘get it’ should be embarrassed. ARKit (iOS) works. It works well. They’ve built the groundwork by pushing out LiDAR. They’ve continued to advance the SDK. Key capabilities, l…

> “Just copy and paste hundreds of lines of OpenGL code from the samples” they say. ffs

For example, the Metal frameworks versus copying Vulkan samples from a random Google GitHub repo.

The last migration guide from Renderscript into Vulkan compute is a sour joke.

Re: Google is building a new augmented reality device and operating system

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> their messaging platforms and failure to leverage Google voice for 10yrs after the acquisition are too The Hangouts > Chat transition is exactly this. Objectively, they've made it worse and more buggy on their own Android platform. Ever since the transition I talk to friends less on Google services. Many of us jumped to Discord Don't even get me going on the Gmail rollout... Google was once an innovator (search, Gm…

> Google was once an innovator (search, Gmail, Docs) Docs was from an acquisition.

I used to think that mattered, but I’m not so sure any more. After all the people that developed that product became part of Google, and they didn’t become any less the innovators of it as a result.

I think what matters with an acquisition is how it’s managed and how the technology is developed. I think it’s unarguable Google has put significant investment into docs and done a good job developing the product so I have no problem at this point giving them credit for it.

Re: Google is building a new augmented reality device and operating system

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It seems that Google is hiring engineers so that they will be ready when Apple launches the AR/VR device. Within one year after the Apple launch, Google has copied and launched their own version. It won't run as smoothly, but it's cheaper. So, anyone who can't afford to buy the Apple product will buy the Google product. And this is how the duopoly will live forever..

free market system at its best...

Re: Google is building a new augmented reality device and operating system

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Isn't it all similar to Microsoft's efforts in mobile devices? I mean gates tried really hard to create a windows on a mobile device. Nokia and co tried by the way as well. Then came apple from nowhere with the first iphone. I bet something like this happens again, so I don't think it will be facebook, google, or apple. Ok maybe apple. But I would rather bet a good working device will come unexpected and will make a…

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Re: Google is building a new augmented reality device and operating system

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As an Android developer and early Glass explorer it pains me to say that I agree with a lot of the comments here.

I was having a conversation with someone connected to the upper execs there one time who explained this to me. They said that Google could generate the same amount of profit with a small fraction of the staff it currently has. The thing is though, the stock price would not be nearly as high and they have to keep the buzz going, by pushing out a lot of bets to pump up the stock. All that they need is enough perception of innovation to make wall street happy. So that is what they have done, and as a bonus a large part of salaries are paid with stock which allows them to keep the ponzi (my term not, theirs) scheme going.

Up until a few years ago most developers loved Google, but they have systematically done a lot of things to piss off a large number of them and you don't see nearly as much Google love these days. The big question is will that negative sentiment eventually affect the stock price? I know that I would personally like to see more competition in the search space (which is their bread and butter) and have less Google lobbyists in Washington DC. Also, great companies eventually do falter. The question is, will Google's fall be as fast as it's rise? Time will tell.

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Was that just a random number you threw out? Because it's depressing if even VPs can only afford three Bay Area homes.

I'd guess a VP can afford just one? Median housing price is 3M in Palo Alto.

I'm guessing Google VPs make ~5 mil a year, given that L8 engineers make ~1 mil a year [0]

[0] levels.fyi

Re: Google is building a new augmented reality device and operating system

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Google was an investor in Magic Heap(Leap). One of the early developers for Google was an angel investor in it and those connections lead to the Google investment, among others. Magic Leap just has a down round where they raised 500 million at a 2 billion valuation, roughly the same valuation they had when they raised ~500 million a few years ago. So they are also competing with themselves on a project that has mostly generated losses. (edited for clarity)

Re: Google is building a new augmented reality device and operating system

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Google is unfocused. That's the how the company is designed. It's a federation of VPs, each trying to build a little fiefdom and buy a third bay area house. Sometimes this works well because it fosters competition, but there's a definite lack of coherency.

Was that just a random number you threw out? Because it's depressing if even VPs can only afford three Bay Area homes.

VPs start at about 2M/year before taxes. That doesn't buy you much in the Bay Area.

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So it seems like the tech giants may be in a race towards creating the "metaverse", or "metaverses". As a kid this would have been an incredibly exciting idea, but instead this kind of news creates a weird feeling in the bottom of my stomach. That's mostly for two reasons: 1. It seems like efforts so far towards creating the metaverse are heavily focused on reproducing the inequalities and status heirarchies we have…

It’s not gonna be like we image it now: virtual places where people gather. It’s going to be the twitter feed equivalent of an online world: tailored to you and your preferences to maximize engagement.
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