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Yes. Covid will continue to mutate to become more contagious and less deadly. This is the natural progression of endemic viruses, they don't want to kill their hosts and they want to spread.
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Mask and capacity limits until when? And why? What problem is being solved now? What’s the goal?
Why I’m sensing a tone of desire to cancel the virus? As if, not fun anymore let’s do something else kind of canceling. A few months back I was in Bulgaria, where the majority of the population is antivaxx virus deniers mask sceptics. It’s true that mask free virus free worry free life is much better, it was liberating to be in Bulgaria. However, at the same time everyone knew someone who died from covid. Much more t…
Everything we’ve done in the last two years is not caused by the virus but our reaction to the virus.
PS: eventually even the most hardcore fearful will have no choice but to move on. Omicron is not the last variant and Covid will be with us forever. Expecting every member of society to treat Covid as if it is the only problem from here on out is not going to happen.
Get your vaccines. Stop being scared and move on. It’s quite literally as simple as that.
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Most likely, considering this is HN, s/he's moving bits around all day. Something that every day grocery store workers can't do remotely with the things they have to move around. Which reminds me that in the first lockdown, in my country, grocery stores workers were considered "essential" and were allowed to go to their workplace and work there.
If I was in charge I’d classify tech workers as non essential and not let them work. Make them go through unemployment for a while. I bet a whole lot of these privileged people would suddenly become a lot less “scared” of Covid… The amount of privilege that reeks from the tech sector is astronomical. I’ve never been more embarrassed working in t is industry than these days.
Tech workers were classified as non essentials. That's why we got the whole remote thing. Other professions also got labelled non-essential and governments asked employers to put remote/wfh in place as much as possible and at some time made it mandatory. Being classified as a non-essential never meant you were de facto out of a job or prevented from working (Western Europe here).
> Make them go through unemployment for a while. I bet a whole lot of these privileged people would suddenly become a lot less “scared” of Covid…
Wait, what ? Why do you want to punish people who managed to keep their job because you don't like the fact they are scared of covid ?
I won't say everything I am thinking but wishing people to lose their job because you think they are privileged and they are scared of covid is pretty fucked up. I am making €1750 net a month, in IT, I have a master degree. I don't feel privileged.
> The amount of privilege that reeks from the tech sector is astronomical. I’ve never been more embarrassed working in t is industry than these days.
Then follow your heart and go work in the service industry in a supermarket.
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Right, but the underlying tech was in development for a decade or more. I can deploy an app to Azure, tell it to allocate a server farm, databases, Redis, queues, etc... in 5 minutes too. But that's only because someone took years to do all the necessary work.
> but the underlying tech was in development for a decade or more. By tech you mean mRNA vaccines ? How did those studies go about it? Why was it not a thing before COVID-19?
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If I was in charge I’d classify tech workers as non essential and not let them work. Make them go through unemployment for a while. I bet a whole lot of these privileged people would suddenly become a lot less “scared” of Covid… The amount of privilege that reeks from the tech sector is astronomical. I’ve never been more embarrassed working in t is industry than these days.
> If I was in charge I’d classify tech workers as non essential and not let them work. Make them go through unemployment for a while. I bet a whole lot of these privileged people would suddenly become a lot less “scared” of Covid… Tech workers were classified as non essentials. That's why we got the whole remote thing. Other professions also got labelled non-essential and governments asked employers to put remote/wfh…
These very same tech workers have zero problems punishing the rest of society and selfishly forcing them to cower to their fears. So yeah, what’s good for the goose is good for the gander. Very little tech work is “essential”. So they should be on unemployment… let them wake up and realize the world doesn’t revolve around a fucking respiratory virus.
It requires a lot of privilege to be scared of Covid.
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Testing and clinical trials!
We don’t do clinical trials for the yearly flu vaccine update, do we?
Going forward, the FDA has already said that a reformulation of the mRNA Covid vaccine would face a similarly shortened approval process.
>FDA says Covid vaccines that target new variants won’t need large clinical trials to win approval
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/02/22/covid-vaccine-fda-says-shots...
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Right, but the underlying tech was in development for a decade or more. I can deploy an app to Azure, tell it to allocate a server farm, databases, Redis, queues, etc... in 5 minutes too. But that's only because someone took years to do all the necessary work.
> but the underlying tech was in development for a decade or more. By tech you mean mRNA vaccines ? How did those studies go about it? Why was it not a thing before COVID-19?
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> but the underlying tech was in development for a decade or more. By tech you mean mRNA vaccines ? How did those studies go about it? Why was it not a thing before COVID-19?
mRNA vaccines have been a thing in labs for a few decades and first human clinical trials against a pathogen in 2013 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/MRNA_vaccine
That risk of unknown effects was still there even when it got authorized for emergency use. Has it changed yet? Like... there was a vaccine based on old tech that has been used in humans for decades without side-effects that caused narcolepsy a year or two later, and we got lucky to have been able to make the association. It is not really only about what tech it uses, apparently.
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If you lie, or omit the truth and get caught, they will never listen to anything you say ever again.
> If you lie, or omit the truth and get caught, they will never listen to anything you say ever again. Hydroxychloroquine. Ivermectin. Yeah, right. Peddling the lies have cause these individuals to get more trust. People want their false hope and false cures, and snake oil.
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The problem are the vaccine mandates. If you (soft or hard) mandate a vaccine, and you kill someone with it, that's a lot of responsibility to take, if the vaccine didn't go through a full trial. If the vaccines were as optional as eg. flu vaccines are, then a simple waiver would solve most of the issues. (a 20yo girl died in slovenia due to jannsen vaccine not that long ago, and she got vaccinated, becase she was so…
Pointing to one person's death and claiming a specific cause... I assume you have very specific autopsy evidence to prove it?
Well, not me personally but a "five-member commission, namely, three doctors (neurologist, infectologist and vascular specialist), a pharmacologist and Zoran Simonovič, a representative of the epidemiological profession" has.
https://www.gov.si/en/news/2021-11-30-expert-commission-conf...
> Minister of Health, Janez Poklukar, the head of the regional unit of the Maribor National Institute of Public Health, Zoran Simonovič, professor Borut Štrukelj from the Faculty of Pharmacy, Ljubljana and Maja Bratuša held a press briefing on the current situation regarding Covid-19 disease.
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> “The commission unanimously assessed that there was a direct link between the vaccination with Janssen Johnson & Johnson and the tragic complication, i.e. the onset of the syndrome”, said Simonovič.
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> Moreover, he said that he is to propose to the vaccine advisory group to stop vaccinating with Janssen in Slovenia, or to enable vaccination with Janssen only at the explicit request of an individual, who must confirm this with signature. “This means that the currently valid provisional vaccination protocol with Janssen will become permanent”, said Minister Poklukar.