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Re: Web3 is going just great

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post #48

I'm flabberghasted at the amount of hate this space is getting from parts of the dev community and in particular HN. Web3 has its fair share of issues, but there's community and energy in the space that I haven't seen online since the early days of the world wide web. Consider this: if you are absolutely, 100% convinced that all of this is bogus, is going to go nowhere (despite the high number of talented individuals…

Like Pascal's Wager, but denominated in ETH.

Re: Web3 is going just great

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As someone building in web3, I'll give an example. When I sold my first business, escrow.com wanted >$20K for the domain transfer from godaddy. If you sell a domain on ethereum (ENS), the escrow requires only a smart contract and fees scale with the network so like $50 right now. I'm working on connecting the two.

Intermediaries are a huge reason the web is the way it is. If we can eliminate them, the internet looks very different. My biggest prediction is that fundamental protocols like TLS will altered to integrate with blockchain protocols.

Web3 isn't just a scam or waste of resources. It will enable us to do things we already do but much cheaper than we do them now. Lots of smart people are flooding into the space. It will take at least a decade but it's already happening.

Re: Web3 is going just great

#73
post #48

I'm flabberghasted at the amount of hate this space is getting from parts of the dev community and in particular HN. Web3 has its fair share of issues, but there's community and energy in the space that I haven't seen online since the early days of the world wide web. Consider this: if you are absolutely, 100% convinced that all of this is bogus, is going to go nowhere (despite the high number of talented individuals…

> I'm flabberghasted at the amount of hate this space is getting from parts of the dev community and in particular HN. Web3 has its fair share of issues, but there's community and energy in the space that I haven't seen online since the early days of the world wide web.

If you're familiar with the space, you have to at least admit that it's filled to the brim with grifters and people looking to acquire life-changing wealth for themselves by hyping things that they have a vested financial interest in.

There is a lot of energy in the space, but that's because it's just about the only thing web3 has going for it right now. The value of an asset has an exponential relationship with the hype around it, so everyone is working overtime to hype hype hype. Few people are interested in discussing what's underneath all of the hype, though, and instead allude to all of the vague future uses of the technology (which will allow everyone to flip their current investments for huge profits, or so the narrative goes).

Re: Web3 is going just great

#75
post #66

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> Seriously though, can you tell us which Web3 technologies, specifically, are disrupting existing technologies in a way that really benefits the end users instead of speculators? Distributed systems where you own the data and there's no single point of failure. > That's not how mining works. Layer 2 networks don't reduce the energy consumption of the Layer 1 network. They still produce 1 block every 10 minutes, and…

> Distributed systems where you own the data and there's no single point of failure. That's too abstract, can you be more specific? > I'm not an expert on the mining mechanics, I might be wrong but not due to the reasons you claim, transaction fees will approach zero as more people move into lightning and block reward will keep getting halved. Transaction costs could go down but that doesn't change the incentives for…

> That's too abstract, can you be more specific?

Depends on which technology you'll use, one of them is www.gun.eco

For the end user just imagine twitter but you can't get banned nor any comment deleted oh and they also cannot read your private messages.

Re: Web3 is going just great

#76
post #11

What are the goals behind these people who spend time making sites and long blogposts about the failings of blockchains/web3, etc? In real life, if I talk to people about crypto they are curious and open to learning about it and most just don't have the time to learn about it. However, when I go online and see a post about NFTs or crypto, there somehow is always tremendous backlash, generally by people not involved i…

The topic is divisive because of human nature. People need to believe in the foundations of their life and the decisions they make, there are a lot of people who don’t want to see the change that crypto could bring and fundamentally no one knows if crypto will change the world but if it does it will change everyone’s lives.

I try to reduce the flames by just talking about the technical or logical aspects with these types of topics.

Personally I think education systems gear us up for difficulties later in life through competitiveness - the drive to win, come first, be right. We should be learning that it’s ok not to come first and sometimes everybody is wrong. We can be wrong on our opinion of crypto as well.

Re: Web3 is going just great

#77

All the Web3 criticisms remind me of my experiences with Star Trek. For context, I never watched Star Trek. I'd read stories about fans and it always struck me as the dorkiest possible show, with unabashed nerdiness making something like the Big Bang Theory look like a sophisticated work of art. But one day, I listened to a podcast about strength training and a question came up about which Star Trek leader the host l…

Problem is blockchain is a test to see if humans will set their own home on fire, while they're still living it, for the promise of a quick buck.

Promoted by people who think government is a terrible idea, an idea so terrible that literally every large group of people invented it.

Of course if I had mined some bitcoin when it was new, I'd be telling you how great it was to ensure my own profits

Re: Web3 is going just great

#78
Why blame web3? Proof of work (Bitcoin specifically) is the entity pouring lighter fluid on the planet. Bitcoin isn't even part of web3.

If we want to realistically reduce CO2 emissions by cryptocurrencies, displacing Bitcoin and other proof-of-work chains is step one. Thankfully this seems to be happening. Check out any chart of BTC-ETH. With power-efficient proof of stake coming next year I'm hoping we can reduce the incentives for anyone who's thinking about starting up a coal power plant.

Re: Web3 is going just great

#79
post #43

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> Bitcoin is already mature and it's the most democratic type of currency/money/property in the world, how can you argue against that? I wish you bitcoiners could decide if bitcoin is a currency or not.

Bitcoin is a new thing, new things can exist that didn't exist before, and just because any old terms don't fit it, doesn't stop it from being its own real separate thing.

Bitcoin is well over a decade old.

Re: Web3 is going just great

#80

All the Web3 criticisms remind me of my experiences with Star Trek. For context, I never watched Star Trek. I'd read stories about fans and it always struck me as the dorkiest possible show, with unabashed nerdiness making something like the Big Bang Theory look like a sophisticated work of art. But one day, I listened to a podcast about strength training and a question came up about which Star Trek leader the host l…

Like that one episode of TNG where they wake up all the people from the nineties, but it's one guy who keeps asking Picard how much BTC is at, how the blockchain is doing, etc.

edit: https://youtu.be/XQQYbKT_rMg

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