Omicron variant more resistant to vaccine but causes less severe Covid: study

Post by lb0 » Tue, Dec 14, 2021, 7:48 PM UTC

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>Way too many comments and articles that try and keep the fear training running full steam. Enragement is engagement, and how better to enrage people than scaring everyone out of their wits and politicising everything as far as humanly possible? I'm certainly no COVID denier nor vaccine sceptic, though to me it's astonishing how little discussion has happened around the fact that everyone from some randomer's blog to…

it’s worth always keeping in mind that the only dichotomy that matters in political economies is that between the wealthy and powerful and everyone else, not left-right, black-white, east-west, socialist-capitalist, or anything else. it’s been this way for all of human history past and will likely be so for the rest of it too. that’s a sober position to take, not a cynical one, as some might argue. the more dynamic o…

Post by makeworld » Tue, Dec 14, 2021, 7:49 PM UTC

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This is honesty good news. The best case scenario is a new less deadly highly contagious strain that become the most dominant and spreads worldwide. Way too many comments and articles that try and keep the fear train running full steam. A mild strain of covid that is contagious, leads to natural immunity and doesn’t require a vaccine is an absolute win win for the world.

Post by ZephyrBlu » Tue, Dec 14, 2021, 7:51 PM UTC

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At this point I'm expecting this crap to be a thing until we have a winter of excess deaths at or below Pre-Covid levels. Once that is observed I think people will finally move on. It sounds like this is still going to result in deaths, so I am now expecting year three of this crap. https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/excess-mortality-raw-deat... I think eventually that winter will come, but the process will be gradua…

At some point, it seems like you have to weigh the lifetime risk of dying from COVID against the loss of life enjoyment and decide “We shouldn’t subject ourselves to another 1.25% of our lifetime of this (whatever “this” is) to lower the fatality rate from Y to X.” (If you’re lowering from 5% to 1%, that trade makes sense for even severe social restrictions. If you’re lowering it from 0.5% to 0.4%, that trade makes n…

Post by clairity » Tue, Dec 14, 2021, 7:51 PM UTC

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it’s worth always keeping in mind that the only dichotomy that matters in political economies is that between the wealthy and powerful and everyone else, not left-right, black-white, east-west, socialist-capitalist, or anything else. it’s been this way for all of human history past and will likely be so for the rest of it too. that’s a sober position to take, not a cynical one, as some might argue. the more dynamic o…

"the only dichotomy that matters in political economies is that between the wealthy and powerful and everyone else" I always think of this as putting on different pairs of glasses to see the world through different lenses. That is one lens. left-right is another lens. There is no "the only lens that matters". There are many lenses which have different degrees of predictive power depending on what you are observing. Y…

Post by bla3 » Tue, Dec 14, 2021, 7:52 PM UTC

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I think it's not yet a given that omicron competes with delta. Since they're fairly different it's possible both strains can coexist.

Data shows otherwise. In ZA over 85% of cases are omicron from not existing last month.