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Omicron variant more resistant to vaccine but causes less severe Covid: study

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Re: Omicron variant more resistant to vaccine but causes less severe Covid: study

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Post by ok123456 »

bla3 wrote: post #307
roody15 wrote: post #175

This is honesty good news. The best case scenario is a new less deadly highly contagious strain that become the most dominant and spreads worldwide. Way too many comments and articles that try and keep the fear train running full steam. A mild strain of covid that is contagious, leads to natural immunity and doesn’t require a vaccine is an absolute win win for the world.

I think it's not yet a given that omicron competes with delta. Since they're fairly different it's possible both strains can coexist.

Data shows otherwise. In ZA over 85% of cases are omicron from not existing last month.

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Post by ceejayoz »

adolph wrote: post #293
ceejayoz wrote: post #194

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's a wide spectrum of precautions available. I traveled overseas recently, but I KN95 masked on the plane and tested before departure and on arrival. I felt like I was living a pretty full life in Bora Bora, while also taking steps to ensure the safety of myself and others around me. Same thing with driving; we have a variety of safety precautions - quite a few of them mandatory - involved that help tilt the cos…

Why travel anywhere if you are living a flu life in Bora Bora?

Unfortunately, that was my travel destination, so I only got a week there. I heartily recommend a visit.

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Post by choeger »

wokwokwok wrote: post #53
gjsman-1000 wrote: post #19

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I would suspect that most people who are were already vulnerable have already passed or built immunity if the virus is equally dangerous, resulting in a lower than equal death rate despite equivalent risk. Although... Can we never, not even once, be a little optimistic? To me, the news that we may be replacing COVID with a less severe strain is some of the best news of the year. COVID clearly isn't going away at this…

Wanting something to be true does not make it true. Even if it turns up to actually be true , the fact that so many people want it to be true is an excellent reason to be cautious in how you look at things here, because that is causing a lot of people to say things that haven’t been proven to be true. The evidence so far looks like cause to be cautiously optimistic, but when the people giving out that evidence say “i…

The thing is that even the pessimistic explanation of the data (high immunity due to prior infection) should give everyone (except maybe some countries) hope. After all, most industrialized countries should have a double digit percentage of prior infection by now.

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Post by lieut_data »

kenjackson wrote: post #259
lieut_data wrote: post #238

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> It just doesn't seem like a big deal to wear a mask, and it would cut down on the need for more restrictive measures like lockdowns. My wife has a medical exemption from wearing a mask. She cannot live a normal life when the standard response to her being out in public is disgust, constant questioning, or outright rejecting her due to "in-store policies." My father has been wearing a mask, but constantly deals with…

Actually legit medical exemptions are rare. Why can't we do mandates with exemptions (maybe an exemption card from a doctor)?

> Why can't we do mandates with exemptions (maybe an exemption card from a doctor)?

I expect my wife would have to strap her card over her mouth to satisfy the social pressure to conform. It's not in most people's imaginations that anyone else could suffer from something that doesn't bother them.

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Post by fshbbdssbbgdd »

roody15 wrote: post #175

This is honesty good news. The best case scenario is a new less deadly highly contagious strain that become the most dominant and spreads worldwide. Way too many comments and articles that try and keep the fear train running full steam. A mild strain of covid that is contagious, leads to natural immunity and doesn’t require a vaccine is an absolute win win for the world.

The big question is whether the disease is genuinely milder, or whether the mild cases are just a consequence of the virus infecting people who are partially immune (due to the immune escape properties). We’ll learn the answer in a few weeks when the strain has had a chance to infect the old and unwell and we will see if the hospitalizations and deaths increase.

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Post by AnthonyMouse »

fbourque wrote: post #192
roody15 wrote: post #175

This is honesty good news. The best case scenario is a new less deadly highly contagious strain that become the most dominant and spreads worldwide. Way too many comments and articles that try and keep the fear train running full steam. A mild strain of covid that is contagious, leads to natural immunity and doesn’t require a vaccine is an absolute win win for the world.

Won't it contribute to more variants in the future if it spreads? But maybe we are past that point with other variants?

Isn't the concern with "more variants" that you'll get some which are resistant to the vaccine, which apparently this one already is?

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Post by comradesmith »

furyofantares wrote: post #226
roody15 wrote: post #175

This is honesty good news. The best case scenario is a new less deadly highly contagious strain that become the most dominant and spreads worldwide. Way too many comments and articles that try and keep the fear train running full steam. A mild strain of covid that is contagious, leads to natural immunity and doesn’t require a vaccine is an absolute win win for the world.

A vaccine resistant strains is extremely bad news; if it's less severe that would be good, but that remains to be seen while it's obvious now that vaccines are less good against it. We should be pressuring our governments to make paxlovid legal and to encourage work on Omicron boosters, rather than pretending this is good news.

I don’t think this indicates omicron is vaccine resistant.

But rather that the current vaccines aren’t effect for because omicron is substantially different from the original covid strain used to develop those vaccines.

The same thing happens every year with the flu.

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Post by adolph »

ceejayoz wrote: post #322
adolph wrote: post #293

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Why travel anywhere if you are living a flu life in Bora Bora?

Unfortunately, that was my travel destination , so I only got a week there. I heartily recommend a visit.

It’s a pity you and your fellow travelers are destroying the world with your carbon emissions. Good thing you wear a mask tho.

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Post by sandworm101 »

rednerrus wrote: post #277
andrewflnr wrote: post #249

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If I evades vaccines for more dangerous variants, I'm not convinced catching it will make me immune to those variants either. It might actually be different enough to be independent.

Have you seen any evidence that this may be likely?

That omicron is able to so easily infect people who have had and recovered from delta points to it being almost a different disease from the perspective of the immune system.
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