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Americans are rethinking where they want to live

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Re: Americans are rethinking where they want to live

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Post by yalogin »

ryan93 wrote: post #483
yalogin wrote: post #479

I was giving it some due until I saw this -- > It’s the fact that they can live their daily life and send kids to school with minimal restrictions. I completely disagree with this. This is the number one reason why I will not move away from a science believing/respecting area. I don't want the headache of people with lack of basic common sense on top of everything life throws at you. If the pandemic has taught us any…

The science shows driving your kids to upper class resume boosting events is more dangerous to kids than covid

Can you elaborate or provide examples?

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Post by CountDrewku »

timbit42 wrote: post #464
CountDrewku wrote: post #441

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>Anyway, speculation aside, there’s also quality of life to consider. A lot of other places in the world really emphasize this. Ok feel free to give me some. I'd like to know the COL in these places as well. A lot people here tend to complain about the US but are living in ridiculous high cost coastal areas and are unaware of more affordable options. Most of them are willingly sacrificing QOL because they refuse to c…

https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/compare_countries.jsp

COL is lower in many places for a reason. This is not enough to state that somewhere else is "better" to live. It is only better for individuals making money in a higher GDP country. What do you think happens to that country if everyone decides to move away? This is a case of wanting to have your cake and eat it too. It only works if a small percentage of people do it.

Re: Americans are rethinking where they want to live

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Post by CountDrewku »

glial wrote: post #588
CountDrewku wrote: post #463

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>Asymptotically spreading COVID has been discussed and documented all over the world. I don’t believe this question is in good faith. Then you should easily be able to back that up with data. So please provide it. Hypothesis are not evidence. I have plenty of evidence that shows the opposite. https://adc.bmj.com/content/105/7/618 https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/07/200710100934.h... https://jamanetwork.com/…

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanepe/article/PIIS2666-7... > Asymptomatic cases had a significant but lower secondary attack rate when compared to symptomatic individuals. Curious what your searches look like, because that took me like 2 seconds to find.

That's one link vs several I gave you. Are you implying that your science is better than mine? Why? What standard proves this? All of the links I gave you are peer reviewed studies. You've proved nothing.

I'll choose my studies over yours. You're just bloviating cult like adherence to "the science".

Re: Americans are rethinking where they want to live

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Post by 0xffff2 »

bugzz wrote: post #124
foofoo4u wrote: post #91

I sure am. I live in San Jose (which resides in the Bay Area). Here’s why I am leaving. - $2,700 per month for a 500 sq/ft apartment. - Homeless people everywhere the moment I step foot out of my apartment. - Smells like urine on many sidewalks. - Literally half of the buildings are vacant or abandoned (in downtown). - Human feces on sidewalks and entrance to buildings. - Political and ideological homogeny. Keep your…

you don't have to move that far to escape all that. Plenty of areas an hour away from San Jose that are nice and a lot cheaper (still more expensive than Texas or Florida, sure).

But if I'm moving an hour away, why not move farther? I was born, raised and have lived 31 out of 34 years in California and I just can't fathom why anyone would choose to live here anymore. I bought a house in Southern Oregon 4 years ago and moved up here full time a year ago thanks to the pandemic. I really hope I never have to move back.

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Post by CountDrewku »

glial wrote: post #585
CountDrewku wrote: post #297

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Can you provide an example of a child in that age range dying when without a secondary illness that made them high risk? All the examples I've seen are children with cancer or something else. The percentages still don't pan out to having such massive restrictions on children that young.

https://www.startribune.com/minnesota-reports-third-covid-19...

The title of that article should be enough to let you know how outside the norm that is.

Do yourself a favor and look up leading causes of child death.

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Post by jedberg »

sagarm wrote: post #513
jedberg wrote: post #263

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> Dense living inherently requires less infrastructure and less transportation Not really. Firstly, it costs a lot more per square foot to build a high rise than a single family home. Secondly, it costs a lot more to maintain it (elevators need constant maintenance, you can't just run to Home Depot to get replacement drain parts, etc.). And the infrastructure costs more to maintain -- running power to a high rise req…

Roads alone cost $2-3M/mile and last 30 years. Amortized, that's on the order of $100k/yr/mile. In a city, that would be $100k / 10 city blocks, probably 100 parcels with 100-1000 low-to-mid rise housing units. In a rural area it might be just 10 housing units, at the cost of $10k/yr/parcel. And productivity in rural areas is 2-3x lower, so it's even higher as a percentage of per-capita GDP. Add on top of that electr…

Urban roads don't last 30 years. Major roads with high traffic get repaved every few years, and even residential roads in urban areas need to be repaved every decade or so.

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Post by ryan93 »

yalogin wrote: post #601
ryan93 wrote: post #483

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The science shows driving your kids to upper class resume boosting events is more dangerous to kids than covid

Can you elaborate or provide examples?

Just saying the risk of covid for kids is so low it’s comparable to lots of other activities parents have no problem with

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Post by [deleted] »

CountDrewku wrote: post #603
glial wrote: post #588

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https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanepe/article/PIIS2666-7... > Asymptomatic cases had a significant but lower secondary attack rate when compared to symptomatic individuals. Curious what your searches look like, because that took me like 2 seconds to find.

That's one link vs several I gave you. Are you implying that your science is better than mine? Why? What standard proves this? All of the links I gave you are peer reviewed studies. You've proved nothing. I'll choose my studies over yours. You're just bloviating cult like adherence to "the science".

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Post by lotsofpulp »

mumblemumble wrote: post #590
lotsofpulp wrote: post #466

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> The bread is overpriced and hastily made. This is contradicted by this: > But they probably also need to have high prices because people only buy bread there for special occasions. It is not overpriced, it is prices according to its supply and demand.

Supply and demand is the simplest possible model for pricing, and only applies in certain contexts. The argument I'm trying to make comes close to suggesting that their bread functions as a sort of Veblen good. Which is an example of a kind of product whose pricing dynamics are slightly more complex than can be neatly explained by the econ 101 model.

Supply and demand applies in all contexts. A veblen good simply has a different demand curve, but I would need to see more evidence that bread of all things would be a Veblen good, which are due to their (presumed) utility for displaying status.

Or maybe I do not hang out in circles where bread is considered a status symbol.

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