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Americans are rethinking where they want to live

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Post by dmode »

gnicholas wrote: post #226
dmode wrote: post #32

This article and similar ones have been written at least a 1000 times for the last decade with a clear political tinge. The poster child is always around how people want to move to Florida and Texas. But somehow it forgets to include Washington and Seattle which has probably seen the biggest tech migration and grown into the second biggest tech hub in the country, far greater than Austin or Miami (hyped up constantly…

It looks like FL and TX each had ~130k net migrants per the last reported data. [1] Washington had ~40k in the same year. There's a reason journalists talk more about migration to FL/TX, and it's because there are way more people moving there. 1: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territ...

Texas has 4x the population of Washington state, has more urban centers and a much larger state. As a % of population, looks like WA has more migration compared to Texas given your numbers

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Post by nunez »

willis936 wrote: post #300
AdrianB1 wrote: post #237

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Can you provide some details on why it is hell?

If you think human feces in public is a problem worth leaving for then try living in a place where you don't know if the water is poisoned, if the power will stay on, or the ground will literally crumble under your home. The local governments are neither equipped nor interested in making those places habitable. It's getting worse and will continue to. Hurricanes and rising sea levels will bankrupt TX and FL each in t…

all of that is extreme hyperbole and you know it

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Post by anarchy8 »

TurkishPoptart wrote: post #374
anarchy8 wrote: post #133

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> My 5 year old has to wear a mask 7 hours a day against an illness that doesn't kill kids This is misinformation: https://www.aap.org/en/pages/2019-novel-coronavirus-covid-19...

In your article, it says that: >Among states reporting, children were 0.00%-0.27% of all COVID-19 deaths, and 6 states reported zero child deaths >In states reporting, 0.00%-0.03% of all child COVID-19 cases resulted in death So how is what I said "misinformation"?

You said it doesn't kill kids. Kids are not magically immune from the virus. What you implied is extremely incorrect and harmful.

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Post by anarchy8 »

anarchy8 wrote: post #133
TurkishPoptart wrote: post #121

And part of it is what public schools are doing to our kids. My 6 year old is required to sit outdoors to eat her lunch in 40ish degree (F) weather, and is not allowed to socialized. My 5 year old has to wear a mask 7 hours a day against an illness that doesn't kill kids. I'm at my wit's end with these school administrators. Hoping to be in Wyoming in 6 months' time.

> My 5 year old has to wear a mask 7 hours a day against an illness that doesn't kill kids This is misinformation: https://www.aap.org/en/pages/2019-novel-coronavirus-covid-19...

Why am I not surprised that Hacker News is a hotbed of COVID misinformation?

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Post by TurkishPoptart »

diveanon wrote: post #418
TurkishPoptart wrote: post #410

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How are we still pretending that people who've received the vaccine (which should really be labeled a prophylactic) can't spread or contract the virus?

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Post by hunterb123 »

yurishimo wrote: post #413
hunterb123 wrote: post #247

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Both Florida and especially Texas are too large for such a blanket statement. Weather-wise, Central East Texas is perfect if you survive August and September. Austin (suburban outskirts) and Dallas (Plano & Frisco) are nice. Houston is way too humid. North East US is way too cold, I like a 70F winter.

You won't find a 70F winter in Dallas... you'll be lucky for high 60s in the deep winter months. Most weeks are more in the 50s. That said, given how climate change is progressing, it tends to be warmer until January, so if you just want the nice temperatures for your holiday plans, then it's a decent option!

It's a nice 66F right now, high of 77F Wednesday.

Yeah it's 50s in the winter frequently, but the same week it can be 70-80s haha.

Allows you to eventually go outside instead of the whole season being cold and miserable.

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Post by onlyrealcuzzo »

erehweb wrote: post #214
onlyrealcuzzo wrote: post #170

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> and live off a VERY modest retirement (WELL under a million saved/invested) for the next 40 years Do you mind sharing how much? I'm curious why most people seem to think $1M is somehow not enough money to retire modestly on. If previous trends continue, you could easily live on >$4K after taxes per month indefinitely. That's almost 50% higher than median wage (after taxes). Median wage = ~$41,000. Even with $0 stat…

Are you factoring medical insurance into consideration? Can be c. $3K / month for a family.

If > 50% of the country is living off less money - then it is obviously possible.

Additionally - due to our tax code being based solely on income and not wealth - you might be able to qualify for a lot of government benefits.

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Post by AnimalMuppet »

diveanon wrote: post #418
TurkishPoptart wrote: post #410

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How are we still pretending that people who've received the vaccine (which should really be labeled a prophylactic) can't spread or contract the virus?

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You don't sound like you're doing great yourself at "being a civil member of society". On that front, heal thyself...

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Post by ravitation »

sanderjd wrote: post #430
ravitation wrote: post #131

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Eliminating the commute, when it is replaced by living in a suburb with essentially no access to services without driving (especially when there was access before), can still be a net negative... That's the point of the anecdote...

Yes I know. My point is that I think it's unlikely that anything comes out behind eliminating commutes. Even "essentially no access to services" is closer access to services than the common exurban commuting distance.

I mean you responded as if you think I was using HN comments as a representative sample and not as an illustrative anecdote...

> Even "essentially no access to services" is closer access to services than the common exurban commuting distance.

Okay... But it's not a one-to-one replacement... A single two-way commute might be replaced by significant drives to the grocery store, restaurants, schools, after-school activities, etc...

Honestly, despite all of this discussion, I think the idea that commutes will be broadly eliminated long-term is the bigger assumption than general suburban driving being a net positive compared to commuting or vice versa.

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