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Re: “We removed the RSS feed since this technology became obsolete”

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Post by thesuperbigfrog »

KronisLV wrote: post #137

Recently added RSS/Atom/JSON feeds to my blog: https://blog.kronis.dev/ Honestly, i largely agree with the claim that RSS is dying. For example, on Windows i wanted to find a decent RSS reader to use, since recently coming to like the technology myself for consumption of news (since all of the sudden everything can just be boring text, as opposed to annoying and attention catching images, styling etc., allowing em to…

>> For example, on Windows I wanted to find a decent RSS reader to use

Microsoft Outlook and Thunderbird [1] support RSS feeds.

In the mail folders pane, there is a folder named "RSS Subscriptions". Right-clicking on the folder shows "Add a New RSS Feed" option that lets you paste in an RSS URL.

After you have subscribed to an RSS feed, each feed shows as a folder under "RSS Subscriptions". Clicking on the feed folder shows the feed's content.

[1] https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/how-subscribe-news-feed...

Re: “We removed the RSS feed since this technology became obsolete”

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Post by q1w2 »

nathcd wrote: post #115

I'm a very happy daily RSS user, but we ought to be upfront about its ginormous deficiencies: - every day I deal with broken links and broken images because my feed reader doesn't know from which URL it should resolve relative links - there's no pagination mechanism, or way for a client to ask for "all posts since last Friday". If you want your feed to always have all posts available, you need to include the entirety…

I'll add another - Chronological ordering within the day isn't very useful. I'm more interested in what other readers (of my type) have found "important/interesting/insightful/etc", so I care about the likes/upvotes/etc...

I don't want everything every day. I want to read the X most important articles that day, with X being different each day depending upon how much time I have.

RSS cannot really provide that prioritization.

Re: “We removed the RSS feed since this technology became obsolete”

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Post by swaggyBoatswain »

sneak wrote: post #145
grozzle wrote: post #92

The whole (non-Spotify, ugh) podcast ecosystem would like a word about RSS being obsolete. Patreon (and to a greater extent, the podcasters I support) keep making real money out of me and millions of others every month for personalised RSS feeds for content. That RSS feed is the delivery vehicle. It's very reliable, I can use it in any app, much good, so benefit, wow.

Most of the listeners of podcasts have moved on to technologies that do not rely on RSS. RSS was like podcasting 1.0. Now people consume podcasts on integrated, centralized platforms.

Not true. I wrote my own RSS distribution feed for my podcast, codechefs.dev.

Every major service integration (Spotify, iTunes, google Podcast, pocketcasts)

subscribes to an RSS feed. That's how it knows when a new episode is uploaded. Those MP3 assets are not hosted on Spotify, iTunes, etc, I host them on my own s3 bucket distributed with mp3 links in the RSS. I'm sure if your a really big podcaster like Joe Rogan things may be different, but everyone else uses RSS feeds

"Integrated centralized platforms" like anchor.fm etc just publishes an RSS feed to those same services and hosts the mp3s for you on an S3 bucket

Moving away from RSS doesn't solve anything

Re: “We removed the RSS feed since this technology became obsolete”

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Post by derbOac »

api wrote: post #107
dethos wrote: post #86

That is a complete nonsense. RSS is one of the most useful tools for those that don't have "social media" accounts. Don't expect people to keep coming back to your website/blog just to check if there is new content/news. If it doesn't provide a feed (Atom or RSS), the most probable scenario is that I will not remember to comeback any time soon.

> RSS is one of the most useful tools for those that don't have "social media" accounts. That's why RSS is dying. It doesn't facilitate in-depth surveillance or algorithmic timelines designed to be addictive... err I mean "maximize engagement." RSS is a user-friendly technology not an advertiser-friendly or surveillance-friendly technology and surveillance driven advertising is the business model of the Internet.

I think the original idea of Twitter was basically to allow people to have "personal RSS" feeds without having technical knowledge or having to start up a blog. That plus built-in aggregation. So personal RSS for nontechnical folks + built-in aggregation.

It's a little ironic to me, then, that this concern is being posted on Twitter of all places.

I agree with the concern, I think RSS (or something closely related, like a decentralized version) should be maintained as a communication method, but I think there's a usability issue that's driving it.

Re: “We removed the RSS feed since this technology became obsolete”

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Post by nanna »

nathcd wrote: post #115

I'm a very happy daily RSS user, but we ought to be upfront about its ginormous deficiencies: - every day I deal with broken links and broken images because my feed reader doesn't know from which URL it should resolve relative links - there's no pagination mechanism, or way for a client to ask for "all posts since last Friday". If you want your feed to always have all posts available, you need to include the entirety…

Maybe try another reader? What are you using? None of these are issues for me in my feed reader, Emacs Elfeed. (XML aside, though I can't say I've ever had to view any feed's source.)

https://github.com/skeeto/elfeed

Re: “We removed the RSS feed since this technology became obsolete”

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Post by tantalor »

nathcd wrote: post #115

I'm a very happy daily RSS user, but we ought to be upfront about its ginormous deficiencies: - every day I deal with broken links and broken images because my feed reader doesn't know from which URL it should resolve relative links - there's no pagination mechanism, or way for a client to ask for "all posts since last Friday". If you want your feed to always have all posts available, you need to include the entirety…

> there's no pagination mechanism

Atom has this:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc5005

Re: “We removed the RSS feed since this technology became obsolete”

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Post by rexreed »

RSS right now is the only viable solution for a particular service I use that aggregates financial news and reporting across a range of sites. I appreciate the simplicity and power in RSS also the built-in capability to process RSS feeds in PHP and other libraries.

Re: “We removed the RSS feed since this technology became obsolete”

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Post by mackrevinack »

nerdjon wrote: post #140

I hate to admit it, but I kinda just... stopped looking at my RSS feeds about a year ago. It wasn't intentional, it just kinda happened? I was (am?) paying for Feedly and then I used a separate app on my phone to consume it (Hated the Feedly UI and I wanted the app I have been using since google reader). But I costantly found myself with a huge number of unread feeds. They became unmanageable. I would look at headlin…

i find myself in the same situation where theres hundreds of unread articles for a site and after a while i usually mark them as read just so i don't have to look at the counter icon. what i would like is an option to turn off that counter for certain sites where i know im just going to scroll through the top 20 articles and then go onto something else. it would be a lot less work
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