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Re: Show HN: I wrote a book on web application deployment

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Post by strzibny »

nawgz wrote: post #17
__blockcipher__ wrote: post #15

This might just be paranoia but a couple of the early comments on this thread feel very astro-turfy. For example: https://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=vich (hasn't commented since aug 2020) https://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=matthieuchabert (hasn't commented for 10 months) https://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=vivty is slightly sketchy as well but not super cut and dry

Show HN has a major problem with that these days. The comments that are just like "perfect timing! I have never seen a resource for this and I'm just learning it now" are really facile, no one actually interacts with people selling you things like this, and it's contrasted starkly with the one comment giving feedback on the page which is that it has no content at all unless you buy it. I find it very hard to believe…

I specifically waited with SHOW HN until I had some customers and good feedback hoping some of them hang out on HN as well.

I swear nothing was solicited. I just posted it myself and waited. No Twitter, no mailing lists, nada.

Re: Show HN: I wrote a book on web application deployment

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Post by strzibny »

nefitty wrote: post #8
strzibny wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oh shoot. It's just a static page hosted on Netlify, wonder why is that.

Is that in the book?

I don't use Bitdefender. I think it has some issue with how Netlify delivers content (sesing other Netlify issue with it). Likely a false positive, though.

Re: Show HN: I wrote a book on web application deployment

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Post by M4R5H4LL »

wrycoder wrote: post #10
strzibny wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oh shoot. It's just a static page hosted on Netlify, wonder why is that.

I’d be interested in knowing the reason, once you find it. Thanks for the book!

No specifics - just got this page

Web Protection by Bitdefender Dangerous page blocked for your protection https://deploymentfromscratch.com/ Dangerous pages attempt to install software that can harm the device, gather personal information or operate without your consent.

TAKE ME BACK TO SAFETY I understand the risks, take me there anyway If you know this page is not dangerous, you can add it to your Exceptions list. Be aware that you will not be warned about any threats existing on this pag

Re: Show HN: I wrote a book on web application deployment

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Post by nefitty »

strzibny wrote: post #32
nefitty wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is that in the book?

I don't use Bitdefender. I think it has some issue with how Netlify delivers content (sesing other Netlify issue with it). Likely a false positive, though.

Cool. Hopefully I didn't come off as mocking. I should have clarified that I meant that general type of false-positive flagging problem. I favorited the post if that tells you anything lol

I'm excited to dive in!

Re: Show HN: I wrote a book on web application deployment

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Post by strzibny »

anonymous532 wrote: post #13
strzibny wrote: post #2

Hi fellow readers of HN, I am Josef, a full-stack developer, a formal Ruby Linux packager at Red Hat, and an author of Deployment from Scratch (which is this post about!). After working at Red Hat and technically leading a start-up (of which I was the primary production engineer), I decided to write down a resource I felt was missing on the market: A book that gives you the confidence to deploy your first application…

Not interested in this book, but maybe you find my opinion of any value: Your website comes off as hustle to get money without content: * The first section where you describe your product, you avoid all that the product is, making me think you don't actually have content which you want to show off(the book image is digital with no mention of it being an ebook, the description is about me and tehnologies, no preview,…

Thanks a lot for your feedback. Happy you found the time to write it.

I agree I should clarify it's an ebook sooner in text. And I want to redo the chapters. But I get a lot of conflicting feedback so hard to know what's right.

The page has a good conversion, though. So something is working.

Re: Show HN: I wrote a book on web application deployment

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Post by strzibny »

rmbyrro wrote: post #19
anonymous532 wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not interested in this book, but maybe you find my opinion of any value: Your website comes off as hustle to get money without content: * The first section where you describe your product, you avoid all that the product is, making me think you don't actually have content which you want to show off(the book image is digital with no mention of it being an ebook, the description is about me and tehnologies, no preview,…

I happened to have a quite different view. It was clear to me the content I was supposed to get. The only reason I didn't purchase is because the value proposition "save time managing your own side-project/startup deployment" is not smart, to me at least. I decided to pay and outsource most of these things away in order to focus on differentiating software, marketing/sales and peace of mind. Edit: I also think the "s…

Thanks for your feedback.

> the value proposition "save time managing your own side-project/startup deployment" is not smart

I would say it's not right for all. But it's 100% true (from my readers) that people learn self-hosting to cut costs. That part of the page targets these people.

> I decided to pay and outsource most of these things away in order to focus on differentiating software, marketing/sales and peace of mind

I want to say that the saving angle is only one of the reasons pointed out. If you want to know how things work and don't care about saving, it's still worth to learn it.

I think you are not the target audience, though, since you want to focus on other aspects of the business which you probably enjoy more. :)

> I also think the "start a career in SRE" is quite a long stretch

The book shows you lot of Linux content you can find in RHCSA and RHCE exams. If you would really learn what's in it, you can be hired on spot for a junior role.

Re: Show HN: I wrote a book on web application deployment

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Post by strzibny »

nefitty wrote: post #34
strzibny wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't use Bitdefender. I think it has some issue with how Netlify delivers content (sesing other Netlify issue with it). Likely a false positive, though.

Cool. Hopefully I didn't come off as mocking. I should have clarified that I meant that general type of false-positive flagging problem. I favorited the post if that tells you anything lol I'm excited to dive in!

Actually it was a good joke, I laughed reading it.

And thanks!

Re: Show HN: I wrote a book on web application deployment

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Post by jrochkind1 »

jmuguy wrote: post #21
__blockcipher__ wrote: post #15

This might just be paranoia but a couple of the early comments on this thread feel very astro-turfy. For example: https://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=vich (hasn't commented since aug 2020) https://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=matthieuchabert (hasn't commented for 10 months) https://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=vivty is slightly sketchy as well but not super cut and dry

I suppose if the author asked a few folks to leave positive comments on the post thats not too crazy. I'd do the same thing if I was trying to promote something. I think I'd draw the line at something more programmatic, like some gray hat creating sock puppet accounts.

The HN guidelines[1] say:

> Don't solicit upvotes, comments, or submissions. Users should vote and comment when they run across something they personally find interesting—not for promotion.

I believe that means that asking people to leave positive comments on a post is something the guidelines ask you not to do.

But I would agree that, for instance, just posting on your social media "I posted this on HN, check out the comments" by itself should probably be fine, and might result in the same behavior, it's kind of a fuzzy line.

Please don't actually ask people to leave positive comments though. Or post something that you hope people read-between-the-lines the same way.

[1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

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