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Re: Marketing is scary for a solo developer

#201
As a sole-founder/developer [1], I resonate a lot with OP's post.

Use google to figure out how much real companies spend on marketing vs R&D (e.g., engineers salary). Then you'll know how important marketing is. It's not uncommon to see a tech company spends way more money on marketing than R&D. There must be a reason, right?

Initially, you don't have much money to spend on marketing, but you have time. So how do you allocate your time? It's easier than ever to build a software product. But getting people's attention is getting harder and harder. You have to do work to let people know the existence of your product. Great things rarely happen automatically without you actively doing work. I know engineers like to solve problem in a fully automatic way. But in real business, you need to do manual work.

Every email is a marketing opportunity. It's not like you need to aggressively sell your product/service when replying other people's emails. It's more about providing great customer service. Great customer service is an effective marketing strategy. Genuinely helping your users solve problem (via email), then they'll help you promote your product/service.

It's okay to experiment with paid marketing. When you run a business, money is just a number on spreadsheet :) It's more like resources that you allocate in a strategy game (e.g., age of empires). And paid marketing is not just google/fb ads. There are other forms of paid ads. If you can learn java/python, you are capable enough to learn how to allocate resources (e.g., time, money..) on marketing.

[1] I run listennotes.com

Re: Marketing is scary for a solo developer

#202
I am actually working on a book for exactly this - I consult with start up founders all the time on their marketing and there is a TON of misinformation for them to deal with on top of the fear talked about here and a host of other issues.

There are plenty of generic marketing books, but mine is focused specifically on startup founders. For example: almost every digital marketing book out there will say you need a blog for SEO reasons, the reality is you shouldn't bother with that until you are further along with your business most of the time (and I'll go into detail on the why in the book).

A startup founder has super limited time and money, so talking about the optimal set up (tweet X number of times, Post X number of blog posts) may not be helpful when there are things that take up way less time that may be far more valuable. Eg. knowing exactly where your perfect customer hangs out can be more valuable, especially so your tweets or blog posts don't just disappear into the nether.

Re: Marketing is scary for a solo developer

#203
post #66

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I think this post deserves a friendlier response. magicroot seems intent on offering helpful advice. Nowhere does (s)he say "hire me" or that they have the only answer; in fact the opposite. They are suggesting that just as a unit test is an important aspect of determining functionality, it may be helpful to have a metric of how much excitement a certain feature may engender. I'm not going to judge the quality of tha…

I think it's just the insecurities of developers realizing they don't understand an important subject because it's separate to their work. Magicroots advice is great. Suggesting devs should be siloed from marketing in the context of a solo developer building products is insane. Signed, an insecure developer with bad marketing skills

The reality is that a lot of developers like to build just for the sake of building.

This can lead to the "if you build it, they will come" mentality.

Or worse, "we'll build it and we don't care if they come (and if they do come, they'd better RTFM!)" mentality.

A huge amount of developers just want to be shielded from any kind of customer interaction, and I'm not talking about call center support.

Re: Marketing is scary for a solo developer

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> I think marketers and developers need a stronger culture between ourselves. I fully agree. I've worked with an incredible b2b salesman before. He wasn't very technical, but he was always curious about what was possible and how difficult it would be to accomplish. Going to a conference with him as the technical expert was amazing. Customers were a gold mine for information. We always looked deeper to find the proble…

I write code and do marketing (for a living). So how do you label/categorize me?

Unicorn.

Somewhat off topic, and speaking of unicorns: http://widgetsandshit.com/teddziuba/2011/07/the-craigslist-r...

Re: Marketing is scary for a solo developer

#205
I'm in the same boat. Tho I feel the route for solofounders to market themselves is twitter and that is one of the biggest obstacles for me to actually do it.

Don't really know if SEO is really that important for solodevs or small products anymore.

When you sell a product, you try to present it as something real, with support, hoping customers don't realize this is just a 1 person operation. The expectations are different. SEO is different.

But when your clients are not on the twitterverse, things get complicated.

I resonate with the article, and I'm stuck on this most of the time. Saved for a personal constant reminder. Thanks!

Re: Marketing is scary for a solo developer

#206

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> I think marketers and developers need a stronger culture between ourselves. I fully agree. I've worked with an incredible b2b salesman before. He wasn't very technical, but he was always curious about what was possible and how difficult it would be to accomplish. Going to a conference with him as the technical expert was amazing. Customers were a gold mine for information. We always looked deeper to find the proble…

I write code and do marketing (for a living). So how do you label/categorize me?

You're a person, not a department. I don't have an issue with the profession. I have an issue with misaligned corporate structures.

Re: Marketing is scary for a solo developer

#207

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Many developers don't want to deliver a high-impact product. They want to enjoy the process of creation, earn some reasonable money and make lifes of some people better.

> earn some reasonable money and make lifes of some people better. This requires delivering a high-impact product.

So you'd think, but you'd be wrong, in many cases.

Re: Marketing is scary for a solo developer

#208

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> don't want to deliver a high-impact product > earn some reasonable money These two are in opposition

not really, you can make good money not at a big corp, amd not work on high impact stuff. yelp, intuit, adobe all fit the bill

I like how the definition of Big Corp has changed.

> Adobe

22 000 employees.

Revenue of $12.86 billion.

They're a literal Fortune 500 company (and not that far off from Fortune 200): https://fortune.com/company/adobe-systems/fortune500/

Re: Marketing is scary for a solo developer

#209

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Not at Megacorp they aren’t

Megacorp usually at least starts with a good product that sells well

And once that takes off, think of Google, for example, they also build another 1000 external products and 10000 internal apps.

Re: Marketing is scary for a solo developer

#210

I've started to sell a physical product that I make and have had my google merchant account suspended twice. The algorithms claim that my ads are misleading. I don't think they are, I hope they aren't. The first time, I appealed and it got un-suspended. No reason given. I thought: Cool, must have been a mistake but it's been sorted out. Then, after a couple days, another suspension. Now I don't know what to do. Googl…

I'm in the same situation. I bought a laser cutter and some other production equipment, and started making home decor. I sell pretty simple stuff, like door signs and coasters. Google Merchant Center also suspended my account for being "misleading". I have no ads, just a product feed for Google Shopping. They won't tell me what's "misleading" about my products.

Hmmm....did you mention lasers? That might have triggered their "sketchy" Algo. How do they know you are misleading anyone? People clicking "misleading" because they saw your ad in the wrong context?
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