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Every Schubert Song, Ranked: Listening to 40 hours of Lieder

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Re: Every Schubert Song, Ranked: Listening to 40 hours of Lieder

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(completely off-topic, but commenters on this thread likely to know)

Anyone know a good recommendation system for classical, or even better, cross-genre recommendations? E.g. a project/product that is hosted and ready to use / subscribe to. Where I could put in "I like pieces composed by Ravel and Holst, and I also like things performed by Remy le Beouf", and it would actually give me sensible recs..

Spotify seems to rely on popularity too much, which doesn't really work here (I get a bunch of Best Piano for Chill Work compilation albums and not much else). Is Pandora's rec system any good here or does it fall into the same trap? Any other projects people have seen?

Re: Every Schubert Song, Ranked: Listening to 40 hours of Lieder

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An die Musik: no modulation to flat VI. Didn't like it.

An die Leier: no modulation to flat VI. Didn't like it.

Der zürnende Barde: no modulation to flat VI. Didn't like it.

Das Weinen: no modulation to flat VI. Didn't like it.

Der Wallensteiner Lanzknecht beim Trunk: no modulation to flat VI. Didn't like it.

Der Winterabend: modulation to relative minor then changing mode to major-- judges? Buzz. Sorry, we are looking for a flat... wait a minute, wait just one minute... bass after the cadence in the new key is descending from the tonic by whole-step... and another whole step...

and we have a modulation to flat-VI.

I liked it.

Re: Every Schubert Song, Ranked: Listening to 40 hours of Lieder

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(completely off-topic, but commenters on this thread likely to know) Anyone know a good recommendation system for classical, or even better, cross-genre recommendations? E.g. a project/product that is hosted and ready to use / subscribe to. Where I could put in "I like pieces composed by Ravel and Holst, and I also like things performed by Remy le Beouf", and it would actually give me sensible recs.. Spotify seems to…

You might want to try out idagio. Unfortunately primephonic got acquired by apple so they are out of the game these days.

Re: Every Schubert Song, Ranked: Listening to 40 hours of Lieder

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I wish someone would do some Schubert arrangements in a more modern vein, like Cole Porter-style jazz ensemble, to make his songs more listenable to modern ears.

Classical composer Howard Goodall called Schubert the last really gifted melodicist before the Beatles showed up, it's a pity his work isn't more accessible.

Re: Every Schubert Song, Ranked: Listening to 40 hours of Lieder

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(completely off-topic, but commenters on this thread likely to know) Anyone know a good recommendation system for classical, or even better, cross-genre recommendations? E.g. a project/product that is hosted and ready to use / subscribe to. Where I could put in "I like pieces composed by Ravel and Holst, and I also like things performed by Remy le Beouf", and it would actually give me sensible recs.. Spotify seems to…

You can go to classical music focused forums or Reddit and ask for recommendations. As far as I’ve tried, no recommendation system beats human enthusiasts when it comes to music discovery.

Re: Every Schubert Song, Ranked: Listening to 40 hours of Lieder

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post #7

I wish someone would do some Schubert arrangements in a more modern vein, like Cole Porter-style jazz ensemble, to make his songs more listenable to modern ears. Classical composer Howard Goodall called Schubert the last really gifted melodicist before the Beatles showed up, it's a pity his work isn't more accessible.

There is a lot of pop music that take melodies from classical pieces, they sound just like any other pop song. There is more to Schubert, or the Beatles for that matter, than a talent for melody.

By the way, Chopin, Tchaikovsky, Rachmaninoff, Johann Strauss, and a few others born after Schubert were at least just as good melodists as Lennon and McCartney.

Re: Every Schubert Song, Ranked: Listening to 40 hours of Lieder

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post #9
post #7

I wish someone would do some Schubert arrangements in a more modern vein, like Cole Porter-style jazz ensemble, to make his songs more listenable to modern ears. Classical composer Howard Goodall called Schubert the last really gifted melodicist before the Beatles showed up, it's a pity his work isn't more accessible.

There is a lot of pop music that take melodies from classical pieces, they sound just like any other pop song. There is more to Schubert, or the Beatles for that matter, than a talent for melody. By the way, Chopin, Tchaikovsky, Rachmaninoff, Johann Strauss, and a few others born after Schubert were at least just as good melodists as Lennon and McCartney.

Rachmaninoff heavily influenced Eric Carmen and others:

https://www.cmuse.org/you-cant-believe-how-much-rachmaninoff...

>> As far as derivative works are concerned, the adagio theme (the second movement) appears in the ballad All By Myself (1975) by Eric Carmen, who subsequently explained that Rachmaninoff was “his favourite music.” The following year, he released Never Gonna Fall in Love Again, which, in turn, was based on the third movement from Rachmaninoff’s Symphony n.2. >> >> Little did Carmen know, however, that Rachmaninoff’s music, which he quoted extensively, was not in the public domain, as the Rachmaninoff estate informed him after the release of his album. The two parts, however, managed to reach an agreement: the estate would receive 12% of the royalties both from “All by Myself” and “Never Gonna Fall in Love again.”

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