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Re: This website has 81% battery power remaining

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It’s on the HN front page, I don’t think I’d extrapolate anything from its current power usage.

Ha. We better read it while we can!

Or, in keeping with the spirit of the post: think long-term and give the battery a chance to rest, then read it later :)

Re: This website has 81% battery power remaining

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I think this also shows how inefficient modern website hosting is. The fact that this person was able to get a raspberry pi to host the #1 website on HN powered by a small 50 watt solar panel is very cool (meaning maybe 10w average power budget), but also shouldn't be as uncommon as it is today. To put this in perspective, a modern server uses 50-100 watts idle doing nothing, and many more under load. To handle the t…

I hate to be that old foggy but, aren’t websites just getting worse and bloated with JS crap? I’ve had a couple websites I use daily for work just get flashy new interfaces which causes 1/3 to 1/2 second delays in the interface which used to not exist, previously they just had normal page load delays. For example, SalesForce Lightning, their UI overhaul. Old UI is mainly just flat HTML with some loading on fields. Ne…

I agree. There needs to be a substantial effort in web development to shed the bloat. Clean and small reduces issues with resources, security, and maintainability. The status quo is gross.

Re: This website has 81% battery power remaining

#193
post #45

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> you could hack around that by using Disqus But that's not actually solving the problem, it's just offloading it. Not to mention that you're selling your community to yet another tracking company, and jacking up user page load time.

>> by Disqus or something depends on what you want, the low end is incoming comments as emails and putting them semi-manually into an iframe on the unchanged static article page. Doing it myself at https://blog.mro.name/2019/05/wp-to-hugo-making-of/ and sacrificed commenter speed. Others may easily be more sophisticated than above brutalist solution. But still: comments in iframes align well with static sites IMO. Ed…

I like this approach, is there something specific you're using to automate this at least in part? I feel like it could be made into a simple service with very limited JS to make it less "slow", unless you decide to manually approve of a comment.

Re: This website has 81% battery power remaining

#195

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Though topical thought, the Uk NHS site is text and blue hyperlinks. Its still collapsing tonight because the prime minister just announced booster jabs available for everyone. (Guess what I'm spending my evening doing). So you can't always win.

It'd be interesting to know what you actually are doing! Thoughts and Prayers, etc

Oh, actually, just browsing to kill time while watching the open browser window at the side refresh on the NHS booking site hoping it will work long enough to give me a booster jab appointment. It alternates between "you are in a queue ten minutes to go" and "our site is overloaded please try later" for about two hours now. Everyone else between the ages of 18-50 in the UK is basically doing the same thing, hammering the site. Its not quite as life and death exciting as I make it sound....

Re: This website has 81% battery power remaining

#196
post #83
post #39

Small technical nit: I love the dithered images and the retro feel, but their CSS should specify `image-rendering: pixelated` to make sure browsers don't interpolate the pixels.

Whoa, TIL. It actually makes quite a big difference. Nevertheless I don't actually think being pixelated is much of a stylistic choice. Here [1] they explain how they use dithering to minimise their bandwidth and computational costs. [1] - https://solar.lowtechmagazine.com/2018/09/how-to-build-a-low...

AVIF and WEBP formats give pretty good compression : https://squoosh.app/editor

* original colourful image : https://homebrewserver.club/images/lime2.png

* dithering/PNG on this site : 34 kB

* AVIF (quality 16 for similar "readability") : 21 kB

* WEBP (quality 16 for similar "readability") : 24 kB

But the "nice dithering style" is lost in the process, obviously.

Re: This website has 81% battery power remaining

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post #74

Semi-related —- does anyone have recommendations for where to find small hobbyist solar panels and/or kits to experiment with for small devices like a Pi? Also curious about how a setup like this compares with using a traditional electricity source in terms of cost per hr of running the site off of solar with batteries. What is the break even point against utility costs over there(if there is one)? And are there any…

For small panels, check sites already suggested by others. If you want to experiment with larger panels, craigslist or similar have good deals. Used panels or new leftovers from a pallet.

I've paid $130ish each for 4 panels 280w-315w. And since it's local, you don't get dinged for shipping.

Re: This website has 81% battery power remaining

#199

*Technically*, this is very cool, impressive, and generally an elegant work of art. *Pragmatically*, I see 2 flaws in their thesis (as explained on the about page): >> "The entire network already consumes 10% of global electricity production with traffic doubling roughly every 2 years" I think the implication is electricity consumption will also double roughly every 2 years, but Moore's law actually operates on appro…

Check out the upcoming ATX power consumption and compare it to what we're using currently...

What you said was true for a very long time, but Moore's law has slowed down a lot over the last 5yrs and power consumption has increased significantly, and is about to become unreasonable in my opinion.

Maximum power draw of 2.4 kw for about to 10% of the uptime is ... sadly going to be reality soon.

Re: This website has 81% battery power remaining

#200
post #196
post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Whoa, TIL. It actually makes quite a big difference. Nevertheless I don't actually think being pixelated is much of a stylistic choice. Here [1] they explain how they use dithering to minimise their bandwidth and computational costs. [1] - https://solar.lowtechmagazine.com/2018/09/how-to-build-a-low...

AVIF and WEBP formats give pretty good compression : https://squoosh.app/editor * original colourful image : https://homebrewserver.club/images/lime2.png * dithering/PNG on this site : 34 kB * AVIF (quality 16 for similar "readability") : 21 kB * WEBP (quality 16 for similar "readability") : 24 kB But the "nice dithering style" is lost in the process, obviously.

Lossless compression of their 4 colours dithering PNG (34 kB) :

* AVIF : 69 kB (+100%)

* WEBP : 27 kB (-22%)

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