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Tacit knowledge is more important than deliberate practice

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Re: Tacit knowledge is more important than deliberate practice

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I have no idea what he's trying to compare, deliberate practice (a method of learning) is one important way to learn tacit knowledge (a kind of knowledge).

How can you compare a method of learning to a kind of knowledge? This comparison does not make sense at all.

Re: Tacit knowledge is more important than deliberate practice

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Yes, tacit knowledge exists. Riding bicycles is a great example. Technical design is a terrible one. Design docs are so important partly because they force you to put some thought into making your implicit assumptions explicit, in a way where you and other folks can question and learn from them.

Re: Tacit knowledge is more important than deliberate practice

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Readers who are interested in the actionable aspects of this topic should probably read the last instalment in this series: https://commoncog.com/blog/accelerated-expertise/ The basic idea is this: 1. Deliberate practice only works for skills with a history of good pedagogical development. If no such pedagogical development exists, you can’t do DP. Source: read Peak, or any of Ericsson’s original papers. Don’t read t…

A mentor can teach you both the pedagogy and their own pet peeves/beliefs, so it’s not quite as bad as that. You do need to consult multiple mentors to get a breadth of so called tacit knowledge though.

The future is here, it’s just not evenly distributed.

About half of the things I used to obsess about fifteen years ago are now common if not dogma. I don’t obsessively track the things that don’t pan out but odds are I was dead wrong about a few of them. Still waiting on the rest.

Re: Tacit knowledge is more important than deliberate practice

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I'm sorry, I was really into the whole Deliberate practice thing and then I read this and thought "Oh no, did I have it all wrong?" So I read the book he quoted - "Source of Power". And you know what? It has a tremendous overlap with Deliberate Practice. The proponents of Deliberate Practice never claim to "just do it over and over" - you have to have background knowledge, a teacher/coach, etc... the tacit knowledge.…

Yeah, I always understood deliberate practice as reflecting on what you're doing and focusing on parts which are wrong, i.e. figuring out where you might be missing the "tacit knowledge".

Re: Tacit knowledge is more important than deliberate practice

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IMO Tacit knowledge is what we used to call judgement. Judgement is basically knowing a bunch of things but having a good idea of which things are more important than others, and especially knowing which things are worth spending time on any which aren't. It's like when I see someone talking about financial options and they put everything on the board at once: what are puts and calls, what's an iron butterfly and oth…

Judgement or specialty.

Oddly, my first specialty was performance optimization. A predisposition met a trouble project and I spent half my time finding ways to speed up code without making it offensive. Then later projects had problems but no mandate, so I got pushback. I got really good at crypto-optimization - changes that improve performance but look like something else (cleanup, bug fixes, feature requests), and found there’s a whole quadrant of code changes that answer both legibility and speed.

There is very little magic or intuition based about any of this. It could be in a book. If anyone knows of a book that covers this, I’d love to gift it to people, because as far as I’m aware I’m seen as a weird (semiretired) street preacher on this subject. But I’m just tweaking existing recipes as it were, adding common ingredients in uncommon ways.

Re: Tacit knowledge is more important than deliberate practice

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Readers who are interested in the actionable aspects of this topic should probably read the last instalment in this series: https://commoncog.com/blog/accelerated-expertise/ The basic idea is this: 1. Deliberate practice only works for skills with a history of good pedagogical development. If no such pedagogical development exists, you can’t do DP. Source: read Peak, or any of Ericsson’s original papers. Don’t read t…

As someone who's studied this field extensively and applied it professionally, I'll go ahead and say I wouldn't recommend Accelerated Expertise to anyone. Reading it I got the distinct impression that the authors did not understand a great deal of the research they cited, either when supporting or dismissing it. Some good criticism of the book can be found here[0]. If some acronyms confuse you, the main one to know is CLT, Cognitive Load Theory. The idea roughly is that humans have a relatively fixed amount of stuff they can hold in their head and the process by which we become more expert is by making "schemas" that allow us to automate processes and group many small ideas together. When learning you want to create robust, correct schemas quickly.

https://3starlearningexperiences.wordpress.com/tag/accelerat...

Re: Tacit knowledge is more important than deliberate practice

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Readers who are interested in the actionable aspects of this topic should probably read the last instalment in this series: https://commoncog.com/blog/accelerated-expertise/ The basic idea is this: 1. Deliberate practice only works for skills with a history of good pedagogical development. If no such pedagogical development exists, you can’t do DP. Source: read Peak, or any of Ericsson’s original papers. Don’t read t…

Thank you so much for taking the time to explain that. This is something I wish I had read before going to uni. Knowing how to skillfully "extract knowledge" from an expert with a powerful question is a skill in itself. I wish there was more emphasis in education in uncovering tacit knowledge instead of simply being spoonfed the way it's been done for generations. This is helpful and I'm going to take this with me where-ever I go from now on.

Re: Tacit knowledge is more important than deliberate practice

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"Tacit knowledge cannot be externalized" is a cruel thing for me to hear when it comes to social skills.

Ty Tashiro writes about how "awkward" people

https://www.ted.com/talks/ty_tashiro_why_we_re_socially_awkw...

need things to be spelled out and made explicit. With that, we can function as well as anyone. Without that we suffer when we get advice like "be yourself", "read Dale Carnegie", etc.

Ty was lucky to have parents that understood that he needed this and made sure he got it. I didn't. Often it would take me a while to get what came naturally to the other kids and adults never seemed to recognize that, which made me feel really lonely.

Re: Tacit knowledge is more important than deliberate practice

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Somebody serious about deliberate practice will spend a lot of time seeking “tacit knowledge.” The author is possibly confused and thinks the term refers to repetition or reading or something. The original paper studies pianists and violinists (possibly chess players too?) - people who aren’t spending their exhausting practice in a library or chatting on discord except when it’s the most important thing to do The str…

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