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Alarmed by Tesla’s self-driving test, state legislators demand answers from DMV
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Re: Alarmed by Tesla’s self-driving test, state legislators demand answers from DMV
#12As they should, from all agencies involved. It is absolutely horrifying to see Tesla do this open beta test on public roads when no other non-Tesla entities (other cars, pedestrians, motorcyclists, bicyclists, etc) consented to being a part of a reckless experiment. Moreover, Tesla influencers on social media tend to cherry pick and show only the nicer parts of their FSD Beta drives where no incidents and disengageme…
There is the argument that they are already safer than human drivers though and it'd be morally objectionable to stop. Not saying I'm completely on that side, but it is a valid utilitarian argument.
Says who?
Self-driving vehicle data is in good weather in a circuit on the same streets. Over and over.
Re: Alarmed by Tesla’s self-driving test, state legislators demand answers from DMV
#13> ...cited the apparent poor performance of what Tesla calls Full Self-Driving beta, a $10,000 option that gives owners advanced automated driving features and allows them to test cutting-edge autonomous technologies on public roads. (Beta is a software term that describes a product not quite ready for general sale to the public.)
Wait, does this mean people are actually paying extra money to become test dummies for this?
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#14As they should, from all agencies involved. It is absolutely horrifying to see Tesla do this open beta test on public roads when no other non-Tesla entities (other cars, pedestrians, motorcyclists, bicyclists, etc) consented to being a part of a reckless experiment. Moreover, Tesla influencers on social media tend to cherry pick and show only the nicer parts of their FSD Beta drives where no incidents and disengageme…
There is the argument that they are already safer than human drivers though and it'd be morally objectionable to stop. Not saying I'm completely on that side, but it is a valid utilitarian argument.
The detractors don't disagree with the argument, but instead opine that current evidence does not support the premise.
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"This is the same woman that stated "fuck elon musk" on twitter,"
You are wrong.
Lena Gonzalez (D-Long Beach) != Lorena Gonzalez (D-San Diego)
Re: Alarmed by Tesla’s self-driving test, state legislators demand answers from DMV
#16As they should, from all agencies involved. It is absolutely horrifying to see Tesla do this open beta test on public roads when no other non-Tesla entities (other cars, pedestrians, motorcyclists, bicyclists, etc) consented to being a part of a reckless experiment. Moreover, Tesla influencers on social media tend to cherry pick and show only the nicer parts of their FSD Beta drives where no incidents and disengageme…
> https://mobile.twitter.com/taylorogan/status/146940457943982... Damn, the part where he tried to take over and the car wouldn't let him for a while, was downright scary Reminds me of a famous quote... > "I'm sorry, Dave. I'm afraid I can't do that." I fell like there should be a hardware way of taking over that overwrites anything the software does.
There is. Tapping the brake pedal.
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#17As they should, from all agencies involved. It is absolutely horrifying to see Tesla do this open beta test on public roads when no other non-Tesla entities (other cars, pedestrians, motorcyclists, bicyclists, etc) consented to being a part of a reckless experiment. Moreover, Tesla influencers on social media tend to cherry pick and show only the nicer parts of their FSD Beta drives where no incidents and disengageme…
There is the argument that they are already safer than human drivers though and it'd be morally objectionable to stop. Not saying I'm completely on that side, but it is a valid utilitarian argument.
Have you watched some of these videos in question? These videos of autonomous city driving are so bad that this claim seems absolutely laughable to me.
The burden of proof is on the person making the claim of safety. For Autopilot, the argument was made comparing known AP deaths per total AP miles vs auto deaths vs. driving miles of the entire US fleet... when the former almost certainly didn't include a share of the deaths and was driven under less demanding conditions (highway miles).
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#18No wonder Tesla is leaving California, over and over again you see corruption and government control taking over inovation.
Shouldn't the government ask why a "beta" software that's being sold as "full self driving" is operating with seemingly no oversight?
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#19As they should, from all agencies involved. It is absolutely horrifying to see Tesla do this open beta test on public roads when no other non-Tesla entities (other cars, pedestrians, motorcyclists, bicyclists, etc) consented to being a part of a reckless experiment. Moreover, Tesla influencers on social media tend to cherry pick and show only the nicer parts of their FSD Beta drives where no incidents and disengageme…
It’s not just Tesla influencers vehemently defending FSD, but videos showing dangerous FSD behavior are also taken down very quickly using DMCA. It seems like there is a concerted effort to suppress “bad videos” that breaks the self driving narrative.
Latest example: https://twitter.com/mostlyharmlessz/status/14694217625553510...
Re: Alarmed by Tesla’s self-driving test, state legislators demand answers from DMV
#20Slightly off topic, but it's fun to see company culture reflected in the algorithm behaviour.
There are thousands of clips of Tesla's Fatal Self Driving being far too aggressive for American roads (https://nitter.net/taylorogan/status/1469404579439824899).
Meanwhile, companies like AutoX have the problem of being far too conservative for Asian roads (https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=TFEvkmvIjVo). AutoX has some of the best edge case handling I've seen.