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The Internet Has a Rat Poison Problem

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Re: The Internet Has a Rat Poison Problem

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Post by Spivak »

NavinF wrote: post #34
KingMachiavelli wrote: post #3

What's surprising is why people would buy this over the more obvious search result 'Rat Poison'. Perhaps Amazon has already adjusted the search results but the top results for 'rat poison' were Cholecalciferol and Bromethalin based products. Does Brodifacoum work the best? What's driving consumers to search for a specific type of poison. > Things haven’t quite worked out as the EPA envisioned. When I first started br…

Never had to deal with a rat problem, but lemme put myself in the shoes of someone who tried using cheap single-mouse traps and found they didn’t work. At that point I would google for the most effective poison (using some metric like time to death or LD50 per kg), check exterminator forums to see what they use as a last resort, etc. If the product is as deadly as promised, I’d give it a 5* rating and recommend it to…

This mirrors my experience pretty well with most everything. It seems the only markets where you can find quality is stuff sold to professionals. It’s not foolproof but hot damn is it noticeable.

Re: The Internet Has a Rat Poison Problem

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Post by wpm »

derefr wrote: post #148
matwood wrote: post #67

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We're fortunate enough to have an owl (I assume a pair) and a couple of hawk pairs in my neighborhood (I can see them in the nest). There are also snakes (I've had to coerce a 3' black racer off my porch). Rodents have never been an issue. The problem with denser city living is there isn't a lot of habitat for natural predators.

There's a natural predator in cities whose habitat is "your couch." But people say that allowing cats to be "outdoor cats" is a bad thing. (Cats do hunt a bunch of species that aren't going to try to enter your house, and may in fact be endangered. But then... so would owls, hawks, and snakes living in the same areas. My point isn't so much that having cats outdoors is good; but rather that we should apply the same s…

Because cats hunts for fun and don’t even eat what they kill half the time. They’re just out murdering birds for sport.

Re: The Internet Has a Rat Poison Problem

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Post by dredmorbius »

acomjean wrote: post #83
WalterBright wrote: post #16

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Get the old wood-and-wire snap traps. The design is centuries old, and they work. They make them rat-size, too.

I’ve used the wooden and wire, and they do work. Setting the small ones I always get a little nervous about my fingers. I saw the rat size ones in the store and yikes..

There's a plastic snap-trap that's easier to set and less risk to your fingers.

They're particularly useful for someone who's older and has muscular or nerve disabilities.

Both the wood and plastic traps are effective in my experience.

Re: The Internet Has a Rat Poison Problem

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Post by Spivak »

syshum wrote: post #126
fortran77 wrote: post #105

I've also seen Termite pesticides with similar sales restrictions for sale -- and there are plenty of how-to videos now on how to apply them yourself, without the need for some company to come over and tent your house, etc.

That is the thing people often do not understand about regulations, even EPA regulations. It is very often not about safety or protection of environment, it is about protectionism of businesses. No Pleb you are clearly to dumb to do anything for yourself, you must depend on "The Experts" that are government approved "professionals", never ever do anything for yourself....

I mean I think I would be fine with a world where anyone could buy the stuff so long as they went through and passed a class on how to use it. I think that would be a fine middle-ground.

Re: The Internet Has a Rat Poison Problem

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Post by Something1234 »

derefr wrote: post #148
matwood wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We're fortunate enough to have an owl (I assume a pair) and a couple of hawk pairs in my neighborhood (I can see them in the nest). There are also snakes (I've had to coerce a 3' black racer off my porch). Rodents have never been an issue. The problem with denser city living is there isn't a lot of habitat for natural predators.

There's a natural predator in cities whose habitat is "your couch." But people say that allowing cats to be "outdoor cats" is a bad thing. (Cats do hunt a bunch of species that aren't going to try to enter your house, and may in fact be endangered. But then... so would owls, hawks, and snakes living in the same areas. My point isn't so much that having cats outdoors is good; but rather that we should apply the same s…

Yeah but they too good at hunting the ones who aren't going to enter my house. They're little psychos[1], but I love my little psychos.

[1]: https://theoatmeal.com/comics/cats_actually_kill

Re: The Internet Has a Rat Poison Problem

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Post by Something1234 »

14 wrote: post #98
hunter-gatherer wrote: post #71

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Bats are amazing neighbors. For years our neighboor had a massive pine tree that was hone to a pretty significant bat population. We would always see them come out at night and start feeding. Mosquitoes were never an issue. A few years ago the tree had to be cut down because it was rotting inside and was at danger of falling down. Unfortunately the bats haven't returned, and everyone in my neighborhood is now fightin…

The only issue I have with bats is I am now terrified of them. Several years back my kids Taekwondo instructor, a 21 year old picture of perfect health magnificent human being, was killed from rabies after a bat brushed against him in the night while taking a pee on the side of the road. Months later after it was too late signs of rabies appeared and he died in hospital. It was devastating. The bats in my neighbourho…

https://www.cdc.gov/rabies/location/usa/surveillance/human_r...

This is absolutely nuts. Also how would he know that he wasn't bitten if it brushed up against him.

Re: The Internet Has a Rat Poison Problem

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Post by giardini »

darkerside wrote: post #110
randallsquared wrote: post #82

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I would expect this only works for you because something else is preventing population growth in ants near your house.

Either this or confirmation bias. Ants will reproduce colonies and expand to take as much resources as you're willing to give them.

Fire ants seemed at first a scourge in Texas but they also eliminated certain pests. During the time I presided over a condominium we had no need of termite or carpenter ant control, thanks to our ever-alert fire ants.

Once the pests are gone, if necessary you can reduce the fire ants' population with say, Amdro. By simply paying attention, you can keep your lawn and buildings in a steady state vis-a-vis insect pests.

I was not so successful with alleged mice/rats. Some tenants insisted there were rats present. We do have an abundance of possums but I've never seen a rat or mouse here and baby possums are often mistaken for rats. So I put out some mouse/rat bait boxes. The results over the first season was only two dead very small baby possums, indeed small enough to enter the rat/mouse trap, eat the anticoagulant and die before leaving. After that I threw out the rat/mouse traps.

Re: The Internet Has a Rat Poison Problem

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Post by kingcharles »

s5300 wrote: post #4

We (younger than 30ish) are in for some crazy times IMO You can order parts to reliably make guns fully automatic straight to your door, thousands of rounds of ammunition for a weeks worth of minimum wage work straight to your door, poisons such as what this article refers to straight to your door… gun suppressors straight to your door… I just think were going to see a ton of people in the US snapping and doing crazy…

Can confirm that fully automatic AR-15 is effect against both rats and mice.

Re: The Internet Has a Rat Poison Problem

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Post by thegrimmest »

JackMorgan wrote: post #136
thegrimmest wrote: post #107

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I think this is oversimplifying the political compass. There are a whole class of people that believe helping people should be voluntary, not mandatory. Dignity is something that comes from within, but if you want a "thriving wage", negotiate for it. The left supports all sorts of policies that make helping people compulsory, at which point it starts to more resemble slavery than charity. How would you define a "fair…

You're right, it's definitely an oversimplification. I don't think though we live in a society that could allow people to negotiate for a thriving wage without a power as large as the government. It is in no way a hyperbole to state that if the American government's worker protections weaken much more we will have companies with their own private armies forcing people into company towns like what happened to our grea…

You've rather hit the nail on the head - companies shouldn't be allowed to use violence (private armies) in order to force people to cooperate. Likewise, government should not be allowed to force terms of employment on employers. When things turn violent is the exact point the government should intervene, no sooner. It should otherwise refrain from interfering with private, peaceful negotiations between its citizens.

Kellogg's is a perfect example here - the employees tried to collectively bargain for higher wages, and the employer decided that the cost of replacing the workforce was lower than the cost of meeting their demands. No violence required, just a voluntary basis for cooperation. This is how it should work.

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