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NewLimit: a company built to extend human healthspan

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Re: NewLimit: a company built to extend human healthspan

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There is something dystopian, childish, naive, desperate, arrogant, sad and tragic about billionaires founding and funding longevity companies and projects. They think that they've got it all, but deep down there's still this gaping hole of meaninglessness. They can control evertything. Everything but death. If only they can find a way to live longer, maybe even a way to never die of natural causes, everything will b…

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Re: NewLimit: a company built to extend human healthspan

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Frankly, this is what America has always been about - A combination of science, technology and capitalism. We need a lot more of these moonshots attempted at a massive scale. So what if it may not work out? People can not stop for the fear of failure. If founders have money and resources, by all mean I for one welcome these with open arms.

Yeah I wouldn't even mind if somebody spent billions on finding an 'Upload' like solution where you can just put your consciousness in a computer and live forever like that instead.

People generally have a knee jerk hate for such things but I welcome that with open arms too.

Re: NewLimit: a company built to extend human healthspan

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There is something dystopian, childish, naive, desperate, arrogant, sad and tragic about billionaires founding and funding longevity companies and projects. They think that they've got it all, but deep down there's still this gaping hole of meaninglessness. They can control evertything. Everything but death. If only they can find a way to live longer, maybe even a way to never die of natural causes, everything will b…

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Re: NewLimit: a company built to extend human healthspan

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Longevity is a worthwhile goal for striving for. It is horrific that beings with hopes, dreams, and loves are forced to die and lose everything they have ever had, doomed to an eternity of the black void of nonexistence. That should be a choice. I for one am thrilled that society is starting to view death as something we might be able to one day defeat, rather than the resigned acceptance that has reigned throughout…

That's a very egocentric view of the whole endeavor of life. Part of the game is the renewal process of it. If for once find it way more creepy to have centennial billionaires that are hoarding land and resources, because they have the illusion that things belong to them, when in reality it was never theirs to begin with.

> to have centennial billionaires

All technologies are expensive at first. To imply that longevity will not some day be available to all is absurd. The riots would collapse society.

Technology becomes affordable over time.

> Part of the game is the renewal process of it.

There is no renewal process. There is only a permanent end. A void that you will never escape from.

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Whether you agree with that or not, what's clear is that this stuff should be a choice. Who are you to tell someone that they shouldn't live as long as they want? It's their body.

Re: NewLimit: a company built to extend human healthspan

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There is something dystopian, childish, naive, desperate, arrogant, sad and tragic about billionaires founding and funding longevity companies and projects. They think that they've got it all, but deep down there's still this gaping hole of meaninglessness. They can control evertything. Everything but death. If only they can find a way to live longer, maybe even a way to never die of natural causes, everything will b…

No if we lived to a 1000 years, almost all of our problems here would be solved -- as people would finally take responsibility for their futures.

Re: NewLimit: a company built to extend human healthspan

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The psychological rot is what I'm talking about - not anything physical. Perhaps it has to do with aging brain anatomy but we don't know that it isn't due to the arduous nature of life itself. Life has a way of beating people down and making them bitter, far too often. Hell, you could be right and perhaps seeing everyone they know and love, sans their children, get sick and die, perhaps that is traumatizing though we…

In any longevity scenario we will necessarily have the time to iron these problems out :) No technology, no matter how good, has been perfect from the beginning.

I suppose, we just have to be real careful that we aren't preserving Emperor Palpatine.

Re: NewLimit: a company built to extend human healthspan

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There's very little funding of longevity research apparently. Probably because of people sharing your opinion that stopping aging is selfish/immoral. But this is not right, we've severely underestimated the biological dangers of our overpopulated-overconnected world. We find ourselves needing to fight a pandemic with similar methods as in 1917, because we ve not prepared for that. Biotech should be an imperative for…

> people sharing your opinion that stopping aging is selfish/immoral. People share this opinion until they're on their deathbed. If offered a pill to be restored to youthful longevity in that moment, most people would give up everything and endure just about anything for a mere chance at it. People are remarkably shortsighted and don't take the time to comprehend what the horror at the end of the tunnel will really f…

I’m not even sure it’s that deep. Having listened to some of David Sinclair’s work, he talks about how modern medicine doesn’t see old age as an illness to cure, hence it not getting any funding.

It’s just accepted that you get old and your health goes down the toilet, because “that’s life”. Nobody bats an eyelid when we hear “died of natural causes”.

Re: NewLimit: a company built to extend human healthspan

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There is something dystopian, childish, naive, desperate, arrogant, sad and tragic about billionaires founding and funding longevity companies and projects. They think that they've got it all, but deep down there's still this gaping hole of meaninglessness. They can control evertything. Everything but death. If only they can find a way to live longer, maybe even a way to never die of natural causes, everything will b…

No if we lived to a 1000 years, almost all of our problems here would be solved -- as people would finally take responsibility for their futures.

they 'd push all their problems to the next millenium

Re: NewLimit: a company built to extend human healthspan

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There is something dystopian, childish, naive, desperate, arrogant, sad and tragic about billionaires founding and funding longevity companies and projects. They think that they've got it all, but deep down there's still this gaping hole of meaninglessness. They can control evertything. Everything but death. If only they can find a way to live longer, maybe even a way to never die of natural causes, everything will b…

I agree with all that you said, but I'd add [0] I'd rather see them pouring money here, than funding real estate bubbles or oil companies you know.

[0] unless their ventures are really immature glorifying ways to spend money and produce nothing

Re: NewLimit: a company built to extend human healthspan

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This is just deathist brainrot. If we lived for 10k years "naturally", would you support killing people off after 70-80 years? Of course living longer would make things better.

Living that much longer through disease and natural degeneration elimination with the possibility of still dying from trauma might be quite horrible. Aversion to risk would logically skyrocket. Would skiing or even driving make sense?

You'd make the same argument if your life expectancy was 40 years and people proposed medicine could let you live to 80.

You'd also make the same argument if your life expectancy was 200 years and medicine advancements could let you live to 300.

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