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Re: The Internet Has a Rat Poison Problem

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Post by sekh60 »

formerly_proven wrote: post #46
WalterBright wrote: post #14

I use the old-fashioned snap traps. They work fine. Sometimes it's necessary to tweak the catch to make it more sensitive. They're made of wood and wire, and aren't an environmental problem. I live near a greenbelt and there's a never-ending invasion of mice. If I leave the garage door open and unattended, they're in in a flash and setting up shop. The only way to get rid of them is the traps, and you have to get rid…

Cats definitely work against mice, you just need cats which actually hunt them. Most of today's domestic cats probably didn't learn to hunt.

I miss my cat, we called her triple-kill Mari since many times we would wake up and see the dead rats neatly arranged on the deck.

Re: The Internet Has a Rat Poison Problem

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Post by Aeolun »

formerly_proven wrote: post #46
WalterBright wrote: post #14

I use the old-fashioned snap traps. They work fine. Sometimes it's necessary to tweak the catch to make it more sensitive. They're made of wood and wire, and aren't an environmental problem. I live near a greenbelt and there's a never-ending invasion of mice. If I leave the garage door open and unattended, they're in in a flash and setting up shop. The only way to get rid of them is the traps, and you have to get rid…

Cats definitely work against mice, you just need cats which actually hunt them. Most of today's domestic cats probably didn't learn to hunt.

Our cat certainly hunts mice. The problem is she considers them presents to give to bring back home.

Re: The Internet Has a Rat Poison Problem

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Post by Aeolun »

skissane wrote: post #45

Brodifacoum? I don’t buy that on Amazon, I buy it at my local supermarket. Not the US, Australia. I’ve never heard any controversy about availability of brodifacoum in Australia (maybe some environmental or animal welfare group has complained, but if so I haven’t heard about it) Glue traps, now that’s controversial. In the state of Victoria, illegal to use in residential settings (on animal welfare grounds), but stil…

What’s so bad about a glue trap that it weighs up against massive internal hemorrhaging over the course of 5 days?

Re: The Internet Has a Rat Poison Problem

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Post by AstralStorm »

s5300 wrote: post #47
Aengeuad wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The way gun suppressors work in movies and TV is complete fiction, in real life suppressors can attenuate gun shots by maybe 15-35 dB SPL at best. 140 dB SPL is the threshold at which sound causes pain, 120 dB SPL is the threshold that risks instantaneous noise-induced hearing loss, and most rifles and handguns using standard ammunition are in the 140-170 dB SPL range. Even with a suppressor the volume a typical gun…

No, you can get literal Hollywood quiet with suppressors. If you’ve never gotten to experience that, sorry I guess haha. A Kel-Tec CP33 or Ruger MKIV with various forms of attached suppressors or integrated suppressors shooting CCI subsonic .22 is Hollywood quiet. Less noise than a BB gun. There are various other calibers that can get pretty damn close to as quiet as those as well. For your traditional military calib…

Said Hollywood quiet is in excess of 80 dB still, though it sounds like someone having a carburator engine pop and not a gunshot.

Re: The Internet Has a Rat Poison Problem

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Post by tomxor »

WalterBright wrote: post #14

I use the old-fashioned snap traps. They work fine. Sometimes it's necessary to tweak the catch to make it more sensitive. They're made of wood and wire, and aren't an environmental problem. I live near a greenbelt and there's a never-ending invasion of mice. If I leave the garage door open and unattended, they're in in a flash and setting up shop. The only way to get rid of them is the traps, and you have to get rid…

I wonder if there is a more sustainable way of dissuading rodents from ever entering a building.

I once had a terrible ant problem, they would always find their way into the kitchen. I tried a variety of products either intended to kill off the actual ant nests directly or trap the invaders, but there was always some quantity of ants remaining that would persist. Then I tried one product that was to simply be sprayed around the entrances like an invisible barrier, the ants would encounter it and just turn around. This turned out to be far more effective, and I felt like less of a jerk by not carpet bombing all the local ant nests.

I guess it might be harder to induce such behaviour in a rodent, I think the spray exploits the fact that ants leave chemical trails, so even if one of them figures out a path the rest wont follow. But the constant game of killing and collecting invaders must be exhausting.

Re: The Internet Has a Rat Poison Problem

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Post by devb »

tomxor wrote: post #56
WalterBright wrote: post #14

I use the old-fashioned snap traps. They work fine. Sometimes it's necessary to tweak the catch to make it more sensitive. They're made of wood and wire, and aren't an environmental problem. I live near a greenbelt and there's a never-ending invasion of mice. If I leave the garage door open and unattended, they're in in a flash and setting up shop. The only way to get rid of them is the traps, and you have to get rid…

I wonder if there is a more sustainable way of dissuading rodents from ever entering a building. I once had a terrible ant problem, they would always find their way into the kitchen. I tried a variety of products either intended to kill off the actual ant nests directly or trap the invaders, but there was always some quantity of ants remaining that would persist. Then I tried one product that was to simply be sprayed…

I managed to control my serious ant problem by feeding them. I would set up plates of sugar or sugary food outside, away from the house. Over time I got fewer and fewer scouts coming in to the house to snoop around.

Re: The Internet Has a Rat Poison Problem

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Post by TheOtherHobbes »

Amezarak wrote: post #44
WalterBright wrote: post #14

I use the old-fashioned snap traps. They work fine. Sometimes it's necessary to tweak the catch to make it more sensitive. They're made of wood and wire, and aren't an environmental problem. I live near a greenbelt and there's a never-ending invasion of mice. If I leave the garage door open and unattended, they're in in a flash and setting up shop. The only way to get rid of them is the traps, and you have to get rid…

I sometimes get mice in the house, and found snap traps to be totally ineffective. They worked at first, but when I had more than one mouse in the house, they seemed to learn to avoid them and even how to eat the bait without setting off the mechanism. The most generally effective trap I have found is glue traps. They are an awful device but very effective. Unfortunately, you have to kill the trapped mice yourself. T…

I used to live in a rural area. As soon as it began to get cold the mice - and sometimes a few rats - would start their annual pilgrimage from the freezing, dangerous fields into the nice warm safe human houses.

I bought some live catch traps. The mice blocked the entrances.

Really. They collected all kinds of crap that was on the floor and pushed it into the entrance holes.

If I'd known about the cooking oil trick, I'd have used that instead.

Re: The Internet Has a Rat Poison Problem

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Post by jbaber »

praptak wrote: post #37
WalterBright wrote: post #14

I use the old-fashioned snap traps. They work fine. Sometimes it's necessary to tweak the catch to make it more sensitive. They're made of wood and wire, and aren't an environmental problem. I live near a greenbelt and there's a never-ending invasion of mice. If I leave the garage door open and unattended, they're in in a flash and setting up shop. The only way to get rid of them is the traps, and you have to get rid…

For a Cat to work on mice it has to be a Mouser. I can't pretend I know the full theory of Mousers but it seems that females brought up by Mouser mothers in a mouse-rich environment are the best Mousers, since they are taught to kill from their earliest years.

All I did was go to the adoption place and ask for a slightly older cat who'd been on the street long enough to be a hunter. They were very happy I wasn't asking for a cute kitten. He came litter trained, fixed, and kills everything that gets in the house.

Re: The Internet Has a Rat Poison Problem

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Post by amanaplanacanal »

okeuro49 wrote: post #10
laurent92 wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The dismantling of safety nets is a circumvoluted problem. Safety nets are a feature of rather leftist politics (To me, helping others is the core of leftism). However, the same ones who set up the safety nets, have a racial preference towards helping those they perceive as in the worst situation. Yesterday it was the factory workers, today it’s women, african americans and LGBTQIA+. So, by increasing the safety nets…

> To me, helping others is the core of leftism People on the right wing also want to help others, but the method is different: helping people to help themselves. I think there are risks to both. People can become dependent on safety nets. People can also need more help than just "pull yourself up by your bootstraps". > I say beautiful because, to abstain from finding solutions, there has to be people who find this be…

I suspect it’s not the US relationship with guns, but the US relationship with violence.

The national myth about the founding of the US is about using violence to solve problems. And Americans seem very quick to turn to violence when under any sort of perceived threat.

I doubt getting rid of guns, even if you could find a way to do it, would solve the problem.

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