What will enter the public domain in 2022 • Hacker News Board

Re: What will enter the public domain in 2022

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Post by hnbad » Sat, Dec 04, 2021, 10:42 AM UTC

nicoburns wrote: post #211

hnbad wrote: post #193

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Or for a less radical approach: Limit copyright for creative works to the author's lifetime. Dad wrote the next Lord of the Rings on his deathbed? Too bad, you better hope he sorted out a good publishing deal that'll survive him. Abolish copyright for software. Sorry, your ecommerce website isn't Hamlet. Cap patents to a fixed number of years, say 10, and ban software patents. Also require that a patent filing actual…

> you better hope he sorted out a good publishing deal that'll survive him Presumably this wouldn't help if the copyright didn't survive him, as anybody else would also be able to publish the work.

That's why I said "good publishing deal". Yeah, anyone can re-publish the work but the publisher you signed the deal with can't and it's in their interest to maximize sales.

Re: What will enter the public domain in 2022

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Post by ZeroGravitas » Sat, Dec 04, 2021, 11:03 AM UTC

jedberg wrote: post #82

This comes up every year so I ask a question: If you could fix copyright, how would you do it? Here is what I would do: 1. All works must be registered in a government registry. If it's not in there it's not copyrighted. If you want to register a work from before the law passes, you have to prove you own it under the current system. This would solve the orphan works problem -- if no one can prove they own it, it beco…

I think the key concept is that a hit song/film/book owes as much of its success to its audience as to its creator. Returning super succesful properties to the public domain faster reflects this.

A similar argument could be made for open source software, you don't want anyone to have full control over any key element of the software ecosystem, because at a certain point theyre just milking the venefits delicered by the wider ecosystem.

Corporations may be the same.

Re: What will enter the public domain in 2022

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Post by nemo44x » Sun, Dec 05, 2021, 3:17 AM UTC

aosaigh wrote: post #173

nemo44x wrote: post #17

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It's a really bad UX though. There should at least be a link to just a standard list of things.

Can you explain why it's bad UX if it's intended to be an advent calendar?

It’s not clear at all if your not a Christian familiar with these superstitions. You expect to see a list of content that is available and instead you are using some weird Jesus birthday countdown tool which isn’t great for conveying information.

Re: What will enter the public domain in 2022

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Post by labawi » Mon, Dec 06, 2021, 11:11 AM UTC

BeFlatXIII wrote: post #217

LiquidPolymer wrote: post #147

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As someone who makes decent income via royalties from my copyrighted work, I object to this proposal. Purely from a record keeping perspective, the additional work required for my small business would add a considerable burden. And my accountant would probably have to do the math - thus costing me even more in fees. Large corporations like Disney and MCI are not the only entities who use copyright to protect property…

Copyright needs fixing so that heirs cannot grift off the hard work of those who actually had creative ideas.

I don't think heirs getting money is a significant issue. It's the restrictions on use of said intellectual products and the persecution of those that use said work by our common powers i.e. states/police.

Freeloading heirs get inheritance in many ways, mostly real-estate and companies I think. Society stratified into feudal classes is a big issue, but I don't think we have many examples from authorship (for now).

I don't mind and I think society shouldn't mind other people freeloading or probably even having resources - it's a sign of envy and destructive. It's only when those who have affect those who don't through scarcity or influence that I have issues.

Re: What will enter the public domain in 2022

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Post by SiliconVallet » Sun, Dec 12, 2021, 5:42 AM UTC

owlbynight wrote: post #218

hyfgfh wrote: post #127

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relax it`s just an advent calendar

I don't mind a real advent calendar, but there's something wholly offensive to my soul about this designer spending so much time on code that only exists to needlessly strip away my freedom to overindulge... on information... that I can just Google. It's passive aggressive. User enragement. My wife does this idiosyncratic thing where she lays claim to half of a bag of snacks that has no intent to ever consume. And I…

Sad reductionist stripping away creativity to leave nothing but a hollow husk of bare information, as if all information must be presented in utilitarian brutalism exclusively. You're view is about as sad as your own attempts at passive aggression.