The Internet Has a Rat Poison Problem
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The Internet Has a Rat Poison Problem
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#2Ew. Not surprised you can buy the stuff that professionals shy away from for being too damned toxic, to your door, overnight delivery. Plus good reviews, hard to leave a bad review for it when you're bleeding out in the ER.
I don't use poisons for pest control. We have too many owls, hawks, and the occasional eagle overhead. I'll kill stuff mechanically (damned pocket gophers...) and toss the carcass out where something will find it and eat it, but I won't poison them. The best mouse trap is actually a slightly erratic supply of cat food.
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#3What's surprising is why people would buy this over the more obvious search result 'Rat Poison'. Perhaps Amazon has already adjusted the search results but the top results for 'rat poison' were Cholecalciferol and Bromethalin based products.
Does Brodifacoum work the best? What's driving consumers to search for a specific type of poison.
> Things haven’t quite worked out as the EPA envisioned. When I first started browsing Amazon, neither the cost nor the size seemed particularly egregious to me. A single bucket—similar in size to a container of birdseed—seemed sufficient for my small yard.
Is putting poison over an entire yard a common/reasonable usage? I've really only needed to put poison out in a few problematic locations i.e where rodents have been seen like garages, basements, food pantry, etc. Covering an entire area like you would with grass seed or rock salt seems almost deliberately malicious.
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#4We (younger than 30ish) are in for some crazy times IMO
You can order parts to reliably make guns fully automatic straight to your door, thousands of rounds of ammunition for a weeks worth of minimum wage work straight to your door, poisons such as what this article refers to straight to your door… gun suppressors straight to your door…
I just think were going to see a ton of people in the US snapping and doing crazy shit if we fall into economic decline & keep dismantling our social safety nets.
When I was living in San Diego, I became aware of a dude in a totally normal ass suburb leaving poisoned meat around the entire block, for months on end, after the apparent last straw of dog shit on his lawn snapped. I’m not entirely sure why, but everybody knew - and the cops/city did nothing/were unable to do anything about it. Would be crazy to find out if he was getting whatever poison he used straight from Amazon.
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#5We (younger than 30ish) are in for some crazy times IMO You can order parts to reliably make guns fully automatic straight to your door, thousands of rounds of ammunition for a weeks worth of minimum wage work straight to your door, poisons such as what this article refers to straight to your door… gun suppressors straight to your door… I just think were going to see a ton of people in the US snapping and doing crazy…
You can order parts to make your gun fully automatic straight to your door without filling out a Form 4 if you want to commit a federal crime that the ATF likely will follow up on. You can order suppressors straight to your door without filling out a Form 4 if you want to commit a federal crime that the ATF likely will follow up on. You can _not_ buy thousands of rounds worth of any ammo other than .22 with a week's worth of minimum wage pay (if you know something that I don't, let me know where you're finding these deals). The time will probably come for poison like this very soon.
None of this is to say that terrorism isn't fairly easy, all things considered. The law does very little to stop these things before they happen. The big takeaway is that the vast majority of people aren't violent and unreasonable. You've always been able to do these things, usually more easily in the past than you could today, but we've never had issues with it (at least in the US) to the point where the average person you bump into on the street will have personally experienced it.
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#6We (younger than 30ish) are in for some crazy times IMO You can order parts to reliably make guns fully automatic straight to your door, thousands of rounds of ammunition for a weeks worth of minimum wage work straight to your door, poisons such as what this article refers to straight to your door… gun suppressors straight to your door… I just think were going to see a ton of people in the US snapping and doing crazy…
The dismantling of safety nets is a circumvoluted problem.
Safety nets are a feature of rather leftist politics (To me, helping others is the core of leftism). However, the same ones who set up the safety nets, have a racial preference towards helping those they perceive as in the worst situation. Yesterday it was the factory workers, today it’s women, african americans and LGBTQIA+.
So, by increasing the safety nets, we are not making things better for the people you are talking about, the white men. For them, no help is coming: They are the subject of the joke, the black sheep of people who want to help.
This incongruity ensures that the divide will only widen, not reduce, as you increase help for people in need.
As an example, shooters in school are often white kids getting bullied, who snap. Did we end bullying? Do we make documentaries on who bullied them? No, we further pile upon the hate towards the people who snap (hard to do otherwise). It ensures that the next guy won’t find help against his bullies, and this beautiful circle continues… I say beautiful because, to abstain from finding solutions, there has to be people who find this beautiful.
Anyway. If social help went to everyone, and if everyone were considered as important parts of the society, people wouldn’t snap that much.
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#7If governments could put half the effort they put into chasing drugs into actually policing these substances…
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#8Interestingly, the AG of Washington state just settled with Amazon over this same kind of borderline and illegal sales:
https://www.seattletimes.com/business/amazon/amazon-agrees-t...
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#9As someone who needed some rodenticide, what is actually needed is not restriction on these poisons, but rather very authoritative sites with advice on the best stuff to get, that is actually safe and effective.
It's surprisingly hard to research what poisons are actually good to use, you'll either gets sites shilling stuff that completely doesn't work, but is "eco friendly" (for example "Rat-X"), and sites that simply give you the "most effective", i.e. most poisonous (like the ones in this article).
What's needed are sites explaining, for an average person, what's they should be getting. People aren't trying to kill birds, they just are getting really bad advice on what to buy.
Bromethalin is a good choice, if you use a bait station (it has no antidote, so always use a bait station, never just tie the blocks somewhere).
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#10We (younger than 30ish) are in for some crazy times IMO You can order parts to reliably make guns fully automatic straight to your door, thousands of rounds of ammunition for a weeks worth of minimum wage work straight to your door, poisons such as what this article refers to straight to your door… gun suppressors straight to your door… I just think were going to see a ton of people in the US snapping and doing crazy…
The dismantling of safety nets is a circumvoluted problem. Safety nets are a feature of rather leftist politics (To me, helping others is the core of leftism). However, the same ones who set up the safety nets, have a racial preference towards helping those they perceive as in the worst situation. Yesterday it was the factory workers, today it’s women, african americans and LGBTQIA+. So, by increasing the safety nets…
> To me, helping others is the core of leftism
People on the right wing also want to help others, but the method is different: helping people to help themselves.
I think there are risks to both. People can become dependent on safety nets. People can also need more help than just "pull yourself up by your bootstraps".
> I say beautiful because, to abstain from finding solutions, there has to be people who find this beautiful.
From an outside perspective, shootings are an intractable US problem because of the US's relationship with guns. It's not that people are "abstaining" because they somehow like the situation.