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Re: Sleep technique used by Salvador Dalí works

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Post by mandmandam »

dougmwne wrote: post #109

I suppose it depends on the person but my N1 sleep state contains a bunch of compelling nonsense. The moment I wake back up I can see it's randomness. I just went to a Dali museum and I can't say I'm very surprised he was a fan.

Not to be rude, but I find that interesting and would like to guess.. Do you deal with a lot of random data in your daily/work life? Are you regularly compelled to deal with nonsense?

Conversely, have you any hobbies that you try to progress deeply into; like a sport, or music?

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Post by bschwindHN »

diatone wrote: post #99

Anecdote: I distinctly remember being on the edge of sleep writing a song one night in 2019. I was about to fall asleep on the floor with a notebook in my hand, and just at that moment, the music came into my mind. For whatever reason, I was able to stay awake and flesh it out as a recording. After reflecting on it the next day I realised I had written an acoustic fingerstyle piece that moved across keys as if there…

I'm pretty sure there's some sort of internet rule where you have to share a link to this music if you make such an interesting post!

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Post by jakear »

bschwindHN wrote: post #163
diatone wrote: post #99

Anecdote: I distinctly remember being on the edge of sleep writing a song one night in 2019. I was about to fall asleep on the floor with a notebook in my hand, and just at that moment, the music came into my mind. For whatever reason, I was able to stay awake and flesh it out as a recording. After reflecting on it the next day I realised I had written an acoustic fingerstyle piece that moved across keys as if there…

I'm pretty sure there's some sort of internet rule where you have to share a link to this music if you make such an interesting post!

Unfortunately that same rule also stipulates that at each stage of the musical work being rendered to a digital medium, transferred to an unknown location, then played back using unknown equipment, a portion of the magic is irrecoverably lost.

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Post by grupthink »

diatone wrote: post #99

Anecdote: I distinctly remember being on the edge of sleep writing a song one night in 2019. I was about to fall asleep on the floor with a notebook in my hand, and just at that moment, the music came into my mind. For whatever reason, I was able to stay awake and flesh it out as a recording. After reflecting on it the next day I realised I had written an acoustic fingerstyle piece that moved across keys as if there…

I'm also interested in hearing your music especially since it came from a lucid state.

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Post by pelario »

boublepop wrote: post #160

It sounds like this study has a series of problems. No control group, no reference measurement, no predefined hypothesis, and it doesn’t seem to mention number of participants, unless I missed it suggesting that it’s a small number. From this read I doubt it would replicate under stricter experimental conditions and with more rigor. Edit: Oh and I forgot that the noted effect being equated with creativity is somewhat…

Isn't the group that stayed awake the control group? Number of participants is mentioned repeatedly, also per group.

I suspect you just read the press article and not the study (linked in the press article).

https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciadv.abj5866

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Post by AdamJMarsh »

This is interesting. In our never-ending 24 hour news cycle, our central nervous systems are hijacked by adrenaline, glucose, nicotine & caffeine.

It is a never ending struggle for our bodies to feel relaxed. I fully believe this is a major hindrance to creativity as the logical, ordered side takes over and rules the roost like a dictator.

Although I haven't used this specific technique, I have however done Alexander Technique in my theatre training. It's incredible how much tension our bodies can hold without our minds being aware or conscious of it.

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Post by camillomiller »

rubicon33 wrote: post #142
distantaidenn wrote: post #117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wow, I have this exact same experience before falling asleep. It feels like a direct shift in the thought processes, and as you described it, it feels as though you have become a passive observer of your own thoughts. The images are sometimes so absurd and creative that I almost laugh to myself. But I also, don't KNOW if the images are creative or absurd, but just my brain believing it so -- is there even a differenc…

I'm kinda jealous. I couldn't be more different. I can't remember the last time I had a dream. Months ago probably. Random question but - do you consume any caffeine?

If you don’t mind mild side effects and you do want dreams, there’s always the Calea herb: https://www.healthline.com/health/calea-zacatechichi
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