How is this different from ZeroNet [ https://zeronet.io/ ]?
Is it just me, or is that site down?
Show HN: Decentralized, Mutable, Serverless Torrent Swarm Websites
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Re: Show HN: Decentralized, Mutable, Serverless Torrent Swarm Websites
#112What would happen if I created an illegal site? CP or selling guns?
People don’t have to use your website.
Re: Show HN: Decentralized, Mutable, Serverless Torrent Swarm Websites
#113Earlier quoted context omitted.
How would you solve the problem of spam and squatting without the network requiring payment for domains? Subsequently, how else besides using a crypto coin would it be feasible for a decentralized network to take payment?
Good question, I’m just not satisfied with this answer. Requiring some form of payment is fine, but I’d like the ‘currency’ to be locked into the network so it doesn’t become something you can trade. Maybe contribute to the network in exchange for a balance, that you can then exchange for domains after which it’s gone. Ideally also figure out a way to limit people simply creating many accounts and using that, guess y…
How would you accomplish PKI in such a way that would allow people to rotate keys to keep their account secure, but without allowing them to rotate their key into a different person's custody, thus doing a de-facto transaction that would enable someone to integrate the system with an exchange and put a price on account balances?
Also, what kind of consensus mechanism would you use, with the understanding that without a way to transfer/sell balances, Proof of Work degenerates quickly into a 51% attack, and Proof of Stake is infeasible? Or do you have a different idea in mind to decentralize such a system?
I'm asking these questions because knowing what I do about decentralized systems, in the end I can't see any way around a system like this having transferable balances. Either that or you centralize the part of it that keeps track of the network's history, making it basically akin to a big git repository.
Re: Show HN: Decentralized, Mutable, Serverless Torrent Swarm Websites
#114Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Just because there are gun abusers, you wouldn't want to take away the 2nd amendment which keeps the government in check I don't think this is a good comparison. The second ammendment was appended in 1791 if I'm not mistaken, i. e. shortly after the war for independence on american soil against an empire, which was fought with militias (hence the third ammendement). That's a totally different scenario than the 21st…
When we have a government without corruption, we probably won't need to be armed. That isn't the case today. Checks and balances work in a young government, but after hundreds of years, friendships, camaraderies, it's not difficult to have loosely coupled groups infiltrating all branches. Things eventually crumble as perfect systems are hard. This is akin to the monarchies, where a king may have risen to power as a g…
> When we have a government without corruption, we probably won't need to be armed. That isn't the case today. Checks and balances work in a young government,
I’d argue the opposite: it’s the threat of armed resistance that only works with a young government.
The idea that an armed group could overthrow the government in the US today has always struck me as fanciful. The army would shut down such an attempt very, very easily.
Re: Show HN: Decentralized, Mutable, Serverless Torrent Swarm Websites
#115I cloned it. I don't see how to get to the publius or federalist scripts. I wanted to try to create a blog; is this documented somewhere?
It's an exciting project.
Re: Show HN: Decentralized, Mutable, Serverless Torrent Swarm Websites
#116Earlier quoted context omitted.
You seem to be arguing yourself in a circle.
Would you care to expand? I think my point is sound and relatively simple: deplatforming isn't the problem, the lack of a public square is. Deplatforming is, in itself, a form of protected expression.
If the prohibition of deplatforming is why we need a public square, it does sound inconsistent to say deplatforming isn't the problem.
"The problem isn't deplatforming -- it's the lack of places where deplatforming is prohibited."
Re: Show HN: Decentralized, Mutable, Serverless Torrent Swarm Websites
#117I cloned it. I don't see how to get to the publius or federalist scripts. I wanted to try to create a blog; is this documented somewhere? It's an exciting project.
For federalist:
git clone https://github.com/publiusfederalist/federalist
cd federalist
npm install
npm start
For publius, there are two options, I'll start with option 1, which is an immutable (no updates) model:
git clone https://github.com/publiusfederalist/publius
cd publius
npm install webtorrent supercop.js
./key
./publius &
Then you can either share that magnet link/browse that link, or take the further step to add it as a TXT record on the Handshake blockchain for a name.
If you would like to do it mutably, there is an additional step:
./seed &
Then, you can share the link created by this and create the TXT record with this one instead.
When you update your blog, you can edit the files in the web3root folder, and then simply restart publius and seed.
Re: Show HN: Decentralized, Mutable, Serverless Torrent Swarm Websites
#118This doesn't solve the problem that users have to host files themselves, which makes the network unsuitable for many use cases. With torrents and IPFS, only popular content will be hosted by voluntarists with varying levels of service.
This is the drawback of traditional decentralized networks compared to blockchain-based networks such as Sia/Skynet, where users can pay to get their files hosted with guaranteed service level.
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#119Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is an important debate that comes up all too often. I do think this is the proper forum for this, so I'm glad you brought this up and I would be happy to share my thoughts. The more information people have had in the history of humanity, the more freedoms and liberties we have also had. We would likely still be living in monarchies if not for the spread of information -- North Korea is a prime example. If inform…
> Just because there are gun abusers, you wouldn't want to take away the 2nd amendment which keeps the government in check I don't think this is a good comparison. The second ammendment was appended in 1791 if I'm not mistaken, i. e. shortly after the war for independence on american soil against an empire, which was fought with militias (hence the third ammendement). That's a totally different scenario than the 21st…
Assault rifles were banned in 1986. The only assault rifles available on the civilian market are registered pre-ban ones. Due to limited supply they tend to be quite expensive ($10,000+). You have to register with the ATF and pay a special tax to purchase one.
Re: Show HN: Decentralized, Mutable, Serverless Torrent Swarm Websites
#120This doesn't solve the problem that users have to host files themselves, which makes the network unsuitable for many use cases. With torrents and IPFS, only popular content will be hosted by voluntarists with varying levels of service. This is the drawback of traditional decentralized networks compared to blockchain-based networks such as Sia/Skynet, where users can pay to get their files hosted with guaranteed servi…
You can pay seedbox services for hosting as well, but information the swarm cares about will continue to exist in the swarm. That being said, I think Sia/Skynet is a beautiful project and recommend everyone to check it out as well. I also saw a few other great projects listed in this thread which all sound fascinating.