I'd doubt it works well for tasks that require concentration. A good period of sleep is important for these.
Sleep technique used by Salvador Dalí works
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#72I have aphantasia, but this exact state (just as I fall asleep) is the only time I can consciously see images in my head. It’s very odd
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#73I think I once got into this hypnagogic state by accident. I was having a nap and my dogs woke me up because it was time for their walk. I felt sleepy while walking the dogs but also had a clarity regarding anything I examined in my mind. It's as if my regular state of mind was like walking in a forest with limited visibility, and now I could see the territory from a bird's perspective. This lasted for about 15 mins…
I guarantee that someone out there can recommend a substance which achieves that effect
And then a dozen others will jump in saying that regardless of the actual authenticity of the experience it doesn't count if you did it by directly altering brain chemistry rather than indirectly altering brain chemistry.
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#75Both Dali and Edison did not have families and children to rise. They were multimillionaries also. If you are also childless and multimillionaire, you can experiment with what essentially a sleep deprivation, having hallutinations that are useful in a work of... genius? Also, in case of Edison, he used an army of assistants to comb through his ideas and patents avaiable at the time to find what is useful. Again, a pr…
A comment from a passerby. You say it like this is something you don’t have agency over (at least early on). It’s like saying that “yeah, you cannot be a good painter if you are solving math problems all the time”. Same with childless multimillionaires - it’s not like you are born into being one.
>Same with childless multimillionaires - it’s not like you are born into being one.
I'm reasonably sure you're not saying no one is born into wealth, and I'm equally sure that all multimillionaires are born childless
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#76> In N1, you can imagine shapes, colors or even bits of dreams in front of your closed eyes
It happened to me on several occasions that I would wake up after 10 minutes of early sleep, and I would see things that aren’t there, like photographs projected on the blank walls of my bedroom. I was definitely awake, in the dark, and I would see these images for a minute or so before they faded away.
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#77Earlier quoted context omitted.
I have some success with the TM technique, some days I'm just drained and don't want to do anything and after 20 minutes of TM in the afternoon I spring up and engage in hobbies or social activities as if it was a new day. It's better than a nap, which just gets rid of the heavy bodied tiredness. I also tried mindfulness before but I feel I get kinda like the creativity boost but not the rested state.
Is ‘tm’ transcendental meditation in this context?
Yes
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#78Earlier quoted context omitted.
I have some success with the TM technique, some days I'm just drained and don't want to do anything and after 20 minutes of TM in the afternoon I spring up and engage in hobbies or social activities as if it was a new day. It's better than a nap, which just gets rid of the heavy bodied tiredness. I also tried mindfulness before but I feel I get kinda like the creativity boost but not the rested state.
TM?
Transcendental Meditation. It's a more passive way of meditation than mindfulness that was kinda like a big I thing I think in the 70s or something? A lot of rich people are into it, most notable David Lynch and I think Jim Carrey... they have good marketing and it's kinda expensive if you are on a high earning bracket but of the woo woo weird things I spent money on it's one I don't regret.
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#79Wow. I didn’t know this, but I was actually able to observe this state on myself. When going to sleep, my mind is wandering. But at one point it drifts from real world thoughts to completely abstract concepts and wild imagination that sometimes makes no sense. It’s almost like a hallucination. What’s most interesting is that sometimes I am able to notice the transition to this state and consciously observe it. Usually it makes me happy because I know I’m about to fall asleep within the next few seconds (which I often have problem with, writing this comment at 1:26am again..). I am also able to consciously observe the images being generated. It’s very weird, because it feels like one brain looking into someone else’s brain to the extent that is impossible by any technology or in any other way. Sometimes I’m able to consciously wake up from this state, because I have weird “sleep phobias”. Sometimes I am fascinated by the idea generated at that stage. But unless I write them down or really get up, they are typically lost if I fall asleep within next 5 minutes - maybe I’d have a Nobel prize already, if only I kept a pen and paper ready next to my bed. Or apartment full of crappy kitch paintings..
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#80> The researchers found that the participants who spent at least 15 seconds in the N1 stage had an 83% chance of discovering the hidden rule, compared with a 30% chance for those who remained awake.
"The only difference between the two groups is one minute," Oudiette said. That's "kind of a spectacular result." But if the participants drifted into N2 sleep, the effect disappeared.
Why don't they say what the rate was for people in N2 sleep? Presumably it's more than the 30% chance, but less than the 83%?