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Re: Sleep technique used by Salvador Dalí works

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Someone needs to measure the anxiety between the first blip and the potential second/multiple blips or expectation thereof

My anxiety curve is exponential. First blip: Don't care Second blip: Holy moly, is the world on fire?

wow, that's quite the coefficient on that exponential lol

Re: Sleep technique used by Salvador Dalí works

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This sleep technique can be easily replicated in modern life: work from home, have lunch then a lie-down then have the Teams app's blippedy blip blip blip incoming message audio notifications wake you up to the harsh world of reality. Haven't felt this leads to me feeling especially creative, though.

This is just napping, which many people do. It's about alertness (or lack of, if you nap to long) - http://archive.boston.com/bostonglobe/ideas/naps/

What you need for this if it's real is your fitbit to wake you at the exact time, or perhaps something that measure muscle tension or brain waves.

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This is absolutely fascinating. I'm really interested to learn why this seems to work so reliably well. What's going on on a chemical/electrical level in the brain during N1 sleep that gives it this unique ability, and why does it go away if you go too deep and enter N2 sleep? Also, I'm incredibly eager to try this out now. First I've heard of it and it seems too good to be true.

Looks like the brain has several layers of conscious states. The brain consumes many calories and thinking hard can make you tired. Especially if you have been very productive for a long time and then hit a wall. At the point of mental exhaustion, the brain desires sleep. You fall asleep and begin having a psychosis. The brain uses symbols that represent the psychosis causing hallucination. There is something about b…

What does psychosis actually refer to? I've heard the term but am not familiar with its official meaning

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I think I once got into this hypnagogic state by accident. I was having a nap and my dogs woke me up because it was time for their walk. I felt sleepy while walking the dogs but also had a clarity regarding anything I examined in my mind. It's as if my regular state of mind was like walking in a forest with limited visibility, and now I could see the territory from a bird's perspective. This lasted for about 15 mins…

I guarantee that someone out there can recommend a substance which achieves that effect

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I’ve experimented with all of these techniques, and you basically get the same benefit from 20 minutes of vigorous exercise.

I have some success with the TM technique, some days I'm just drained and don't want to do anything and after 20 minutes of TM in the afternoon I spring up and engage in hobbies or social activities as if it was a new day. It's better than a nap, which just gets rid of the heavy bodied tiredness. I also tried mindfulness before but I feel I get kinda like the creativity boost but not the rested state.

TM?

Re: Sleep technique used by Salvador Dalí works

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I’ve experimented with all of these techniques, and you basically get the same benefit from 20 minutes of vigorous exercise.

I have some success with the TM technique, some days I'm just drained and don't want to do anything and after 20 minutes of TM in the afternoon I spring up and engage in hobbies or social activities as if it was a new day. It's better than a nap, which just gets rid of the heavy bodied tiredness. I also tried mindfulness before but I feel I get kinda like the creativity boost but not the rested state.

Is ‘tm’ transcendental meditation in this context?

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This is absolutely fascinating. I'm really interested to learn why this seems to work so reliably well. What's going on on a chemical/electrical level in the brain during N1 sleep that gives it this unique ability, and why does it go away if you go too deep and enter N2 sleep? Also, I'm incredibly eager to try this out now. First I've heard of it and it seems too good to be true.

I'm going to try this now. Will report back.

Re: Sleep technique used by Salvador Dalí works

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This is absolutely fascinating. I'm really interested to learn why this seems to work so reliably well. What's going on on a chemical/electrical level in the brain during N1 sleep that gives it this unique ability, and why does it go away if you go too deep and enter N2 sleep? Also, I'm incredibly eager to try this out now. First I've heard of it and it seems too good to be true.

I'm going to try this now. Will report back.

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Re: Sleep technique used by Salvador Dalí works

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I don’t know if this is precisely that state but I’ve found that when I drift off while reading, there will be a moment where the text melds with the dream state. A text on surveillance capitalism will sudden include a narrative or will merge with something else that I’ve read.

Dreams are such a lovely experience. I love recounting them and the corresponding dream logic. I especially treasure filmmakers who can recreate that dream feeling. Fellini comes to mind.

Re: Sleep technique used by Salvador Dalí works

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I use the hypnogagic state as part of my meditation routine.

I always shower before bed and that's when I tend to start getting sleepy. So I started meditating during that time.

I can get to the phase of seeing shifting colors and patterns very easily in this setup. I've been able to get there outside the hypnogagic state but only with some difficulty and not consistently.

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