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Re: Sleep technique used by Salvador Dalí works

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Post by kingcharles »

ohiovr wrote: post #2

"As legend goes, Edison would sit in a chair when he got sleepy, holding a ball bearing in his left hand. Soon, he would enter the “hypnagogic state,” a stage between wakefulness and sleep where many people claim to have visual and auditory hallucinations." https://cityftmyers.com/1871/Standing-Thomas-Edison#:~:text=... . This technique should work if you can fall asleep without consciously thinking about what is in…

The hypnagogic state sucks. I used to often wake from nightmares during the night and see hundreds of spiders swarming all over my bedroom. I would stand on my bed and try to figure out how to get to the door. I injured myself a couple of times doing Bruce Lee shit trying to jump across furniture without touching the spiders. I would switch the light on and of course there are no spiders there, but my brain is so convinced by the hallucination that it has to try and reconcile the insanity and then has me looking under the bed where the spiders have surely hidden as soon as the light went on.

Then 30 seconds later my brain goes "lolol, just fucking with you, bro" and I feel really stupid.

Re: Sleep technique used by Salvador Dalí works

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Post by jmkd »

sammalloy wrote: post #12

I’ve experimented with all of these techniques, and you basically get the same benefit from 20 minutes of vigorous exercise.

For years this has been a personal joy of cycling to work...arriving at work with a thousand ideas of how to solve various challenges, and returning home scrambling for a notebook to capture the wild thoughts that emerged on the last half of the journey.

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Post by ohiovr »

kingcharles wrote: post #21
ohiovr wrote: post #2

"As legend goes, Edison would sit in a chair when he got sleepy, holding a ball bearing in his left hand. Soon, he would enter the “hypnagogic state,” a stage between wakefulness and sleep where many people claim to have visual and auditory hallucinations." https://cityftmyers.com/1871/Standing-Thomas-Edison#:~:text=... . This technique should work if you can fall asleep without consciously thinking about what is in…

The hypnagogic state sucks. I used to often wake from nightmares during the night and see hundreds of spiders swarming all over my bedroom. I would stand on my bed and try to figure out how to get to the door. I injured myself a couple of times doing Bruce Lee shit trying to jump across furniture without touching the spiders. I would switch the light on and of course there are no spiders there, but my brain is so con…

I've had nightmares. Isn't it interesting how it is possible 'boot' into a speakative state during a dream or nightmare? Somehow we can escape those..

Re: Sleep technique used by Salvador Dalí works

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Post by arbuge »

> To use the technique, visionaries such as Dalí and Edison would hold an object, such as a spoon or a ball, while falling asleep in a chair.

This one isn't going to work for me, I think. I can never fall asleep in chairs or anywhere except comfortably lying down. Perhaps I could try holding one arm with a ball in it off the edge of the bed.

Re: Sleep technique used by Salvador Dalí works

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Post by kreeben »

pluc wrote: post #18
kreeben wrote: post #13

This sleep technique can be easily replicated in modern life: work from home, have lunch then a lie-down then have the Teams app's blippedy blip blip blip incoming message audio notifications wake you up to the harsh world of reality. Haven't felt this leads to me feeling especially creative, though.

Someone needs to measure the anxiety between the first blip and the potential second/multiple blips or expectation thereof

My anxiety curve is exponential.

First blip: Don't care

Second blip: Holy moly, is the world on fire?

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Post by mabcat »

mkaic wrote: post #7
ohiovr wrote: post #2

"As legend goes, Edison would sit in a chair when he got sleepy, holding a ball bearing in his left hand. Soon, he would enter the “hypnagogic state,” a stage between wakefulness and sleep where many people claim to have visual and auditory hallucinations." https://cityftmyers.com/1871/Standing-Thomas-Edison#:~:text=... . This technique should work if you can fall asleep without consciously thinking about what is in…

>Maybe something like a soft object that when a few moments after it is released makes a squeak sound. Could use some kind of heat or capacitive touch sensor to detect when it's no longer in contact with your hand. Or I guess the KISS version of that would just be to use some sort of physical switch to detect when the object hits the floor. I could totally see there being a market for something like this!

I spent a bit of time trying to do it with flex sensors. Strap one to your hand, make a fist, take your nap, detect when muscle tone is lost and it unbends. I ran out of interest before I got it to work but I still think it's viable. Probably smart to build the flex sensor into a glove for ease of use, and you could put the microcontroller on there too.

https://core-electronics.com.au/flex-sensor-2-2.html

Re: Sleep technique used by Salvador Dalí works

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Post by pvarangot »

sammalloy wrote: post #12

I’ve experimented with all of these techniques, and you basically get the same benefit from 20 minutes of vigorous exercise.

I have some success with the TM technique, some days I'm just drained and don't want to do anything and after 20 minutes of TM in the afternoon I spring up and engage in hobbies or social activities as if it was a new day. It's better than a nap, which just gets rid of the heavy bodied tiredness. I also tried mindfulness before but I feel I get kinda like the creativity boost but not the rested state.
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