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Up all night with a Twitch millionaire

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Re: Up all night with a Twitch millionaire

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What's the career progression for streamers and eSports players, anyway? I feel like everyone that does this now is going to be tired of it in 5 years, and then they're just 30 and without a college degree or job experience.

I know a few ex-YouTubers, and they're all doing just fine. Working in PR, marketing, agents for other creators, etc. Sure, they don't all have a degree... but they have a ton of connections and relevant experience.

Re: Up all night with a Twitch millionaire

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What's the career progression for streamers and eSports players, anyway? I feel like everyone that does this now is going to be tired of it in 5 years, and then they're just 30 and without a college degree or job experience.

Do you have the same questions for professional athletes in traditional sports?

Yes. A lot of professional athletes don’t really make much money. They get normal salaries and play for non major league teams or federations of some sort.

Eventually though they will have to quit their sport due to wear and tear and no longer being at a peak level. And most will probably never really progress to a level where they can make some quick millions from a contract and then retire early.

So what then?

Re: Up all night with a Twitch millionaire

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Do you have the same questions for professional athletes in traditional sports?

We have decades of examples of how this works out for pro athletes. The answer is that there's a range of outcomes: some have to find new careers after their playing days are over; others find ancillary work (coaching, scouting) in the sports industry; the very best make enough money that they don't need to work anymore. In many cases, the athletes have a college degree of at least some value. Professional video game…

It's a valid question, but the answer is simple: nearly the same thing that sports players do when they stop being the player. They either coach, manage, promote their brand, or switch careers.

Re: Up all night with a Twitch millionaire

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The same career path as a professional athlete. Some go into commentating, some go into sports management, and most retire broke and have to pick up a whole new career in their late 20s/early 30s.

Bingo -- they struggle through their 20s until they realize they need to pick a practical career in their early 30s.

Twitch streaming can be extremely practical if you're being sustainable about it. Assuming you're actually watching your income and expenses and being smart about when to hire on additional help you can make a pretty darn successful career. I'd point to T90[1] as an example of someone that isn't near the top 1% but has built an extremely sustainable business including paid moderators and content editors (for sending clips to YouTube).

1. https://liquipedia.net/ageofempires/T90Official/Broadcasts

Re: Up all night with a Twitch millionaire

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This reads as very biased and judgmental. It treats streamers as kids who can't take care of themselves and don't understand the long-term impact of their lifestyle and career choice. It honestly makes me wonder if the author is jealous of the subject. It seems like the piece is really reaching to make Tyler's life appear as irresponsible as possible.

Plenty of people in all careers don't know how to run their lives at 26, and plenty decide to completely change their lives at ages far older than that. Tyler seems like an admirable rags-to-riches success story -- he didn't get his foot in the door by being in the right location or knowing the right people, just hard work and a ton of talent. The company that runs the game he plays banned him for life, and he persevered anyway. In many ways, his success is more rare and more difficult than starting a startup. I'm not saying the lifestyle is necessarily worth celebrating, but it's deserving of a lot more respect than it gets here.

Re: Up all night with a Twitch millionaire

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What's the career progression for streamers and eSports players, anyway? I feel like everyone that does this now is going to be tired of it in 5 years, and then they're just 30 and without a college degree or job experience.

ask your colleagues :)

i was pleasantly surprised one day to find I was working side-by-side with someone who was once a minor music celebrity

they had pivoted in their 20-somethings after a decent payout, used it to finance their education, and are now just 'one of us' haha

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Yes, I honestly believe the donation model (which is the big share of their revenue) shows a glimmer of hope in capitalism. I wish for a future where it's norm not only for streamers but also companies to have the majority of their revenue come from donations.

Re: Up all night with a Twitch millionaire

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What's the career progression for streamers and eSports players, anyway? I feel like everyone that does this now is going to be tired of it in 5 years, and then they're just 30 and without a college degree or job experience.

What's the big deal starting at age 30? you still got another 30 years to work at least, if not more. You just study some profession and start working in the field.

Re: Up all night with a Twitch millionaire

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Yes, I honestly believe the donation model (which is the big share of their revenue) shows a glimmer of hope in capitalism. I wish for a future where it's norm not only for streamers but also companies to have the majority of their revenue come from donations.

I think, for the majority of streamers, the way to set expenses is by looking at long term subscribers rather than day-to-day donations - those donos can fund fun things but you're going to want to try and keep your life expenses carried by the regular subscription income. A lot of the people who have gotten successful doing this have endured extremely lean times when they were trying to break into a decent sized audience - every streamer I've ever heard talk about the financial side of things plans things extremely conservatively.
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