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Oracle Giving Away 4-Core 24 GB Memory Ampere Instances

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Re: Oracle Giving Away 4-Core 24 GB Memory Ampere Instances

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Post by treesknees »

Everyone here is dogging on Oracle, and they are justified probably, however I've been a user of the free tier for going on 7 months now. I run a few projects on an AMD instance and an Ampere instance, both fall under the Always Free tier (Ampere isn't "always free" but as part of Always Free, Oracle basically credits your account to the equivalent of 4xCPU and 24GB of RAM every 31 days.) I've never been charged anything, I don't even have a credit card on file for them to charge.

I will say that the documentation around their services is much worse than AWS. I oftentimes struggle to figure out where to configure things or which services to use. Other than that, it's been fine. If you're really looking for a free VM, I would say check it out.

One piece of advice I'd give is look at regions outside of the US. I selected their Toronto region and I've had zero issues provisioning new instances, whereas most people having trouble provisioning free-tier instances are in the more popular US regions.

Don't run your critical business apps on it. But perfectly usable for personal projects and learning the cloud without spending money.

Edit: Just to add, running a speedtest from my Toronto A1 instance to Los Angeles California

Download: 374.64 Mbit/s Upload: 192.95 Mbit/s

Re: Oracle Giving Away 4-Core 24 GB Memory Ampere Instances

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Post by bcrosby95 »

laurent92 wrote: post #110
kaba0 wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And they do an excellent job as Java’s language steward. Java was revived and has many excellent research and development going for it. Project Loom, Panama, Valhalla came to mind. They also made a low-latency GC. Oracle is not a homogeneous entity.

Sorry, Java is outdated, young people aren’t even interested in learning Java anymore. It’s the “old language”. Try React. Angular. Anything NPM is sexy. Leave Java for the generation Y.

I tried writing my last project in React but its Postgresql libraries are basically non-existent.

Re: Oracle Giving Away 4-Core 24 GB Memory Ampere Instances

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Post by MayeulC »

coldpie wrote: post #96
kaba0 wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And they do an excellent job as Java’s language steward. Java was revived and has many excellent research and development going for it. Project Loom, Panama, Valhalla came to mind. They also made a low-latency GC. Oracle is not a homogeneous entity.

Did you miss the part where they tried to burn the entire computing industry to the ground so they could get a few bucks out of Google? I wouldn't touch anything related to Oracle with a fifty foot pole, that shit is radioactive.

That might be due to https://bonkersworld.net/organizational-charts (I know it's a joke and the drawing is getting old, but it still rings somewhat true).

Re: Oracle Giving Away 4-Core 24 GB Memory Ampere Instances

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Post by HideousKojima »

laurent92 wrote: post #110
kaba0 wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And they do an excellent job as Java’s language steward. Java was revived and has many excellent research and development going for it. Project Loom, Panama, Valhalla came to mind. They also made a low-latency GC. Oracle is not a homogeneous entity.

Sorry, Java is outdated, young people aren’t even interested in learning Java anymore. It’s the “old language”. Try React. Angular. Anything NPM is sexy. Leave Java for the generation Y.

I have seen hell, and it is node-modules.

Re: Oracle Giving Away 4-Core 24 GB Memory Ampere Instances

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Post by chaoticmass »

dijit wrote: post #34

Be extremely wary of Oracle free tiers. They offered a free tier and forced me to choose a shape. I chose the smallest of the two “shapes” but it was apparently not free. This was not especially clear until I got my first bill (it was extortionate; like 60eur/mo for 1cpu/2g ram) so I stopped/removed the instance. This did not prevent me from being billed the next month, or the next month. They charged me until my car…

This is SOP for Oracle. Company I work for got stung by them to the tune of a couple hundred thousand dollars over a similar deal with Oracle DB licensing. I wouldn't enter into any kind of contract or license with Oracle at all, and if I had to, I'd hire a specialized consultant and a lawyer to go through everything with a fine tooth comb first.

Re: Oracle Giving Away 4-Core 24 GB Memory Ampere Instances

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Post by smegsicle »

duxup wrote: post #67
alx__ wrote: post #38

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So when i sign up I should the phone number of my nemesis? Noted.

Until your nemesis says “Yeah upgrade my account for all that cool stuff!”

that's when things really start heating up between my nemesis and my other nemesis (and people talk about the equifax leak like it's a bad thing!)

Re: Oracle Giving Away 4-Core 24 GB Memory Ampere Instances

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Post by hamburglar »

outside1234 wrote: post #8
nefitty wrote: post #4

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This might be the first Oracle product I use. That means down the line I might have an informed opinion to share in business decisions where Oracle provides a solution. Pretty smart.

Or they are just totally failing in the cloud and this is an indication of that. Also not hard to imagine the whole cloud getting shut down and/or sold to Salesforce (and shut down)

They’re definitely not doing well in the “casual cloud user” space, which hurts them because nobody is familiar with their console and APIs. Everyone knows how to do stuff on AWS because we’ve all done personal throwaway projects there. Somewhere else in this thread someone posted their notes on the confusing console, and reading through it, it doesn’t look any more complicated than AWS to me, but familiarity is valuable. Maybe this is a play for that type of usage.

Re: Oracle Giving Away 4-Core 24 GB Memory Ampere Instances

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Post by Spinfusor »

tsimionescu wrote: post #106
chrisseaton wrote: post #98

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> rebuild the licenses around it Isn't it all GPL?

The code is GPL, but the official Oracle binaries are not (since Oracle owns the copyright, they are free to release under multiple different licenses) and they use Oracle's predatory "free" licensing - you când download and run for free for 6 months, but you owe them money if you keep running those binaries after the moment the new version is released. There is no explicit enforcement mechanism - it's up to you to b…

Oracle's OpenJDK binaries are GPL; the Oracle JDK has a better license as of a few months ago (v17): https://blogs.oracle.com/cloud-infrastructure/post/introduci...

Re: Oracle Giving Away 4-Core 24 GB Memory Ampere Instances

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Post by hamburglar »

noasaservice wrote: post #116

The only valid response to this is "Fuck Oracle". Friends do not let friends use anything relating to Oracle, VirtualBox, Java... Anything. No. Just no. Run, Don't walk.

> Java

Uh, whaaaat? I am a legit Java hater, but “friends don’t let friends use Java” is kinda a bizarre viewpoint. You know how much of our industry uses Java? I may prefer other languages but I’m not turning down a job based on them having settled on Java. It’s not PHP. :D

Re: Oracle Giving Away 4-Core 24 GB Memory Ampere Instances

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Post by jfrunyon »

thriftwy wrote: post #70
smarx007 wrote: post #39

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Had IBM Cloud account for a while. At some point, they started to attach a notice to a monthly $0 bill along the lines: if you card gets declined, we will fine you $25 and if you don't pay in 7 days, we will fine you further $50. Easiest account termination decision I have ever had. I guess the first email from Oracle "we are making routine changes to the T&Cs and our privacy policy" will be the end of my account.

Is this even legal? In most jurisdictions, you have to be a government to fine anybody. Sending frivolous charges may be considered fraud and also lead to chargebacks.

If someone has contractually agreed to pay a certain amount if an event happens, and that event happens, then yes, that person has to pay that amount if that event happens.
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