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C64 OS: make a Commodore 64 feel fast and useful

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Re: C64 OS: make a Commodore 64 feel fast and useful

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Lazarus and FreePascal would beg to differ: https://www.lazarus-ide.org Everything you ever loved about Delphi 7, but with a ton of modernization. LGPL, too!

Serious question: Can you make "Netflix money", er, "FAANG money", as a Lazarus developer?

google developed golang instead of improving pascal, so you probably can't. the two languages have surprisingly similar goals.

Re: C64 OS: make a Commodore 64 feel fast and useful

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I love these projects that show what can be done with 1mhz cpu and mere kilobytes of ram, really makes you wonder what we’re doing with the other 99% of hardware performance we’ve achieved since then

Encryption for communications to include HTTPS and TLS 1.3. If it wasn't for all that, you could take an early 90's computer on the internet still.

Re: C64 OS: make a Commodore 64 feel fast and useful

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I love these projects that show what can be done with 1mhz cpu and mere kilobytes of ram, really makes you wonder what we’re doing with the other 99% of hardware performance we’ve achieved since then

The Luddite sentiment common among programmers today really surprises me. The software we’re building today is vastly more powerful and capable than anything from the C64 era.

As I am writing this comment my 2017 macbook is spinning fans, as if it is doing protein folding.. and it has like 3 tabs open on chrome.

And for what? to edit a text box?

There are new capabilities around encryption and encoding, things like h265 and etc, which of course help with medical diagnostics and such.

I would take c64 software any time, look at this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROr8JhilPhI its from 1983.

Imagine what kind of software would the people from 1980s write if they just had a raspberry pi 4 to work with..

Re: C64 OS: make a Commodore 64 feel fast and useful

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Lazarus and FreePascal would beg to differ: https://www.lazarus-ide.org Everything you ever loved about Delphi 7, but with a ton of modernization. LGPL, too!

Serious question: Can you make "Netflix money", er, "FAANG money", as a Lazarus developer?

No, but all those people making "Netflix money" aren't really changing technology, are they? I'd argue FAANG is stagnating it, and telling themselves differently.

I guess if you want to make gobs of cash, fine. You could also just go into finance and make more than FAANG money if you're talented enough.

Re: C64 OS: make a Commodore 64 feel fast and useful

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Programmer productivity. As long as this is the bottleneck in determining market success of a product, this tradeoff will continue.

Programmer productivity has gotten worse. None of the development tools in widespread use today is as productive as Visual Basic or Delphi were back in 1996.

Have you ever wondered why?

It's because today isn't about programmer productivity.

It's about enabling teams to work together without tripping over their own feet and killing the business.

So much complexity to solve essentially what is a human problem.

It takes 5 people to do the job of 1 back then, and that's what the industry wants. No one would trust an individual.

Too much money flowed into this industry, leading to waste, as it became clearly a pillar of the future.

Re: C64 OS: make a Commodore 64 feel fast and useful

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Past related threads: Shared Libraries for C64 OS - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26590376 - March 2021 (1 comment) Rethinking the Commodore 64 Memory Map (2018) - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20317767 - June 2019 (17 comments) C64 OS: A Commodore 64 OS with Modern Concepts - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17997911 - Sept 2018 (42 comments)

dang, I see you do this on a regular basis. Is it automated or are you doing this manual?

Re: C64 OS: make a Commodore 64 feel fast and useful

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I love these projects that show what can be done with 1mhz cpu and mere kilobytes of ram, really makes you wonder what we’re doing with the other 99% of hardware performance we’ve achieved since then

Uh... watching 4k video, for example?

Re: C64 OS: make a Commodore 64 feel fast and useful

#39

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Lazarus and FreePascal would beg to differ: https://www.lazarus-ide.org Everything you ever loved about Delphi 7, but with a ton of modernization. LGPL, too!

Serious question: Can you make "Netflix money", er, "FAANG money", as a Lazarus developer?

No but that isn't because of Lazarus itself but because "Netflix/FAANG" doesn't use it as what it does isn't really in their business interests. Lazarus is mainly about making desktop applications. It can do web, etc but it isn't really a focus and you lose most of the visual functionality anyway (yeah ok, you can set up URL routing via the object inspector and connect DB components together, but 99% of the work is done via code anyway so it doesn't provide something better than what you'd find in more popular tools).

Re: C64 OS: make a Commodore 64 feel fast and useful

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post #34

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Serious question: Can you make "Netflix money", er, "FAANG money", as a Lazarus developer?

No, but all those people making "Netflix money" aren't really changing technology, are they? I'd argue FAANG is stagnating it, and telling themselves differently. I guess if you want to make gobs of cash, fine. You could also just go into finance and make more than FAANG money if you're talented enough.

I'd argue that Microsoft, Google and Apple have enabled massive growth in technology. New uses for OSs, new places for them to run, and ways to make starting far more accessible/collaborative.

Even if there is 2 step forwards, one step back, the overall benefit of options available due to the vast number of people contributing their creativity is only possible due to these companies.

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