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Tell HN: You can't add “no ads” in your Play Store app's title

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Re: Tell HN: You can't add “no ads” in your Play Store app's title

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Post by tyingq »

drusepth wrote: post #153
tyingq wrote: post #113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not searchable for a reason. Ad free apps don't generate revenue for Google. So devs added it to the title. Google is now closing that loophole.

Given that they already highlight ad-free apps, prominently display ad-or-no-ad statuses at the top of every app detail page, curate specifically-ad-free lists of recommended apps, and use "ad-free" verbiage as a selling point to promote individual apps (as well as lists of recommended apps), I don't think it's fair to just jump to assuming Google's purposefully against making it easier to find ad-free apps. I'm not…

They don't highlight ad-free apps. They put a "contains ads" note on the others. You mention IAP, which is also a tag you can't search for. I remain skeptical that a company specializing in search won't let you search on that data, 13 years after launch, for any reason other than money.

Re: Tell HN: You can't add “no ads” in your Play Store app's title

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Post by Marsymars »

carstenhag wrote: post #149
cmeacham98 wrote: post #144

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The gmail app has ads? Where? The only "ads" I see in gmail is the metric tonne of spam I receive every day, and I can't really blame Google for that.

Sure, has been like that for a very long time: Gmail sorts your emails into "General, Social Networks, Ads and Notifications". Only on the ads inbox, Google shows you ads.

To note, that's an optional thing. I've never seen ads in gmail, as I've never enabled that feature.

Re: Tell HN: You can't add “no ads” in your Play Store app's title

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Post by xnx »

edent wrote: post #31

Good? What's the alternative? Have a crappy, paid-for, add filled, bloated app promote itself as "Cauliflower Cooker Lite - the #1 free cauliflower app. 100% ad-free". Metadata like file size, whether there are in-app ads or purchases, etc, should be part of the store's listing - not the title.

You could do a Google search something like this: [inurl:https://play.google.com/store/apps/ -"Contains Ads"]

Re: Tell HN: You can't add “no ads” in your Play Store app's title

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Post by drusepth »

tyingq wrote: post #161
drusepth wrote: post #153

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Given that they already highlight ad-free apps, prominently display ad-or-no-ad statuses at the top of every app detail page, curate specifically-ad-free lists of recommended apps, and use "ad-free" verbiage as a selling point to promote individual apps (as well as lists of recommended apps), I don't think it's fair to just jump to assuming Google's purposefully against making it easier to find ad-free apps. I'm not…

They don't highlight ad-free apps. They put a "contains ads" note on the others. You mention IAP, which is also a tag you can't search for. I remain skeptical that a company specializing in search won't let you search on that data, 13 years after launch, for any reason other than money.

You can't search/filter for anything other than type-of-app/game. In fact, they added the tags for ads/IAPs and hoicked them to the top of the page, rather than sticking them with the rest of the app metadata below the fold. I'd be more willing to think a lack of ad-status filters was nefarious if it was suspiciously missing from a list of other searchable filters.

The fact that they don't have any support for filtering just says to me that they don't really care about app discovery outside of what they build suggested lists for, which seems orthogonal here since some of the suggested lists they curate are literally titled "Ad-free games" (plus "Offline games", "Premium games", "No-interruption games", etc which are also all largely filled with no-ad games, with a few exceptions).

Maybe they're omitting entire features / filter systems just so they don't have to add the sub-ability to just see which apps don't have ads, but I doubt it. As other comments have stated, a lot of people just don't want Amazon-like product titles crammed with keywords on keywords, especially when they're not even checked for correctness. I'm one of those people.

I'd say this probably boils down to a differing fundamental assumption we have: your comment seems to imply you might think big companies are inherently out to maximize profits through manipulating people, even if that means intentionally making a product worse for customers. If that's the case, there's really no point in debating here since that's a completely different conversation and I doubt either of us have the necessary internal evidence needed to convince the other of the real intentions behind withholding this specific feature.

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