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Oracle Giving Away 4-Core 24 GB Memory Ampere Instances

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Re: Oracle Giving Away 4-Core 24 GB Memory Ampere Instances

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Be extremely wary of Oracle free tiers. They offered a free tier and forced me to choose a shape. I chose the smallest of the two “shapes” but it was apparently not free. This was not especially clear until I got my first bill (it was extortionate; like 60eur/mo for 1cpu/2g ram) so I stopped/removed the instance. This did not prevent me from being billed the next month, or the next month. They charged me until my car…

What is shape? Reading the doc doesn't make it clear why it is a paid thing. I just signed up for oracle cloud for free account and how to check if I accidentally bought anything?

Re: Oracle Giving Away 4-Core 24 GB Memory Ampere Instances

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Had IBM Cloud account for a while. At some point, they started to attach a notice to a monthly $0 bill along the lines: if you card gets declined, we will fine you $25 and if you don't pay in 7 days, we will fine you further $50. Easiest account termination decision I have ever had. I guess the first email from Oracle "we are making routine changes to the T&Cs and our privacy policy" will be the end of my account.

Is this even legal? In most jurisdictions, you have to be a government to fine anybody. Sending frivolous charges may be considered fraud and also lead to chargebacks.

It's not a government fine. It's just an agreement in the contract specifying a payment is due if your card declines.

Re: Oracle Giving Away 4-Core 24 GB Memory Ampere Instances

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post #34

Be extremely wary of Oracle free tiers. They offered a free tier and forced me to choose a shape. I chose the smallest of the two “shapes” but it was apparently not free. This was not especially clear until I got my first bill (it was extortionate; like 60eur/mo for 1cpu/2g ram) so I stopped/removed the instance. This did not prevent me from being billed the next month, or the next month. They charged me until my car…

Similar problem to me when they acquired apiary. I was in a free tier of apiary which became a paid tier under oracle. They then charged me for months. I finally had to write a letter (yes snail mail) stating that we were going to report them for deceptive trade practices to the attorney general of Texas. They got back to me after a few weeks. They promised a refund…never got that and it’s just not worth fighting.

I will never choose to do business with oracle directly.

Re: Oracle Giving Away 4-Core 24 GB Memory Ampere Instances

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Man this is exactly the kind of dystopian bullshit I would expect from Oracle.

They ruin everything they touch IMO (Java came to them ruined already to be fair)

And they do an excellent job as Java’s language steward. Java was revived and has many excellent research and development going for it. Project Loom, Panama, Valhalla came to mind. They also made a low-latency GC.

Oracle is not a homogeneous entity.

Re: Oracle Giving Away 4-Core 24 GB Memory Ampere Instances

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post #34

Be extremely wary of Oracle free tiers. They offered a free tier and forced me to choose a shape. I chose the smallest of the two “shapes” but it was apparently not free. This was not especially clear until I got my first bill (it was extortionate; like 60eur/mo for 1cpu/2g ram) so I stopped/removed the instance. This did not prevent me from being billed the next month, or the next month. They charged me until my car…

whenever you sign up for some one-time use trash, use support@oracle.com as your email to get them back :)

Re: Oracle Giving Away 4-Core 24 GB Memory Ampere Instances

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How will any of these be available? If they're free and unrestricted, people will squat them and never give them up. Why would you ever give up any of these? And if you don't need payment details, you can just make multiple accounts to squat them.

If AWS can pull the plugs on paying customer earlier this year due to political reasons, why wouldn't Larry do so to free tiers for business reasons. Those squatters will get evicted easily just like any squatters in America. Since they have very limited means to engage lawyers, every courts in America will hand Larry a hall pass easily. As many have said, you just simply don't invite vampires in no matter how voluptuous and scantily-dressed or muscular Tom-Cruise-handsome.
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